Abberline solved the GSG

[DVV]

Everything is possible, Phil.

With respect, that is not an argument. It could be applied to anything and in my view undermines anything you might say as it cannot be argued against.

In effect it says - don't take this seriously, my case isn't based on facts or logic. Aliens could have done it because "anything is possible".

Phil

And with respect too, that's not a memorable reply.
When I said "everything is possible", I referred to the killer's mood or personality, about a murder which is very possibly the work of JTR. And indeed, that's what the police thought, in 1888.

No aliens needed, Sir

[Phil H]

Everything is possible, Phil.

With respect, that is not an argument. It could be applied to anything and in my view undermines anything you might say as it cannot be argued against.

In effect it says - don't take this seriously, my case isn't based on facts or logic. Aliens could have done it because "anything is possible".

Phil

[DVV]

Hello David.

"But the spot turned out to be unfit for further mutilations - because of Schwartz"

IF Schwartz had really seen the first stages of an assault, it might also be unfit for murder.

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn,

no, not necessarily. Schwartz ran away immediately.
Sailor Man also knew he had been seen by Lawende and co.
He killed Eddowes.

Sacré Joseph !

[lynn cates]

"It ain't fittin'."

Hello David.

"But the spot turned out to be unfit for further mutilations - because of Schwartz"

IF Schwartz had really seen the first stages of an assault, it might also be unfit for murder.

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

BSM wasn't acting very Ripper-like.

The Ripper took away Chapman's uterus. Not ripper-like, if compared to Nichols.
He cut Eddowes' nose : again, not ripper-like.
He killed MJK indoors. Not ripper-like at all.

Kurten killed women and young girls. One day, he had the opportunity to kill a man. He did it.

There are plenty examples as such.

Cheers

[DVV]

Everything is possible, Phil.
Fact is that Stride has been killed in Berner Street, where prostitutes used to do their job.
But the spot turned out to be unfit for further mutilations - because of Schwartz, not Diemshitzshutz, imo.

Cheers

[Phil H]

the ripper lost his temper when Stride wouldn't go where he wanted her to

I'm not sure that I follow the reasoning behind that idea.

Nichols, Chapman, Eddowes, even Tabram, are likely to have led "Jack" to the place where they died. All are quite reasonable places for an "assignation" - darkish, off the beaten track, with a wooden support to lean against.

Where is there ANY basis to assume that "Jack" would have wanted to direct them? Enlighten me please.

Phil

[Abby Normal]

If BSM killed Stride, what makes you think BSM also killed any of the other C5? BSM wasn't acting very Ripper-like.

Hi dm
No he wasn't. But it could have been a time when the ripper lost his temper when Stride wouldn't go where he wanted her to.

[Jon Guy]

Yup.. Or perhaps when Schwartz saw him grab her,hands going up to her shoulders etc he was actually cutting her throat and did not see that much detail. Which would also explain the not crying out very loudly if she had a cut throat come to think about it.

Good shout, Abby.
I do wonder if Schwartz saw the actual murder taking place.
If it were the case it would answer a lot of questions

[DVV]

If BSM killed Stride, what makes you think BSM also killed any of the other C5? BSM wasn't acting very Ripper-like.

Hi Damaso,

I know you don't believe in a double event, I respect that, but at the same time, I consider that's a gross mistake.

Cheers

[DVV]

Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner!!!

Sure, Abby !
Lobster and blanc de Bourgogne !

Cheers

[Phil H]

It is not an impossible interpretation of the GSG - though I do not personally believe "Jack" wrote it. Indeed, the interpretation is better than many.

However, it assumes two things:

a) that Stride was killed by "Jack";

b) that BSM/the man Schwartz saw was the killer of Liz Stride.

For that reason, and my belief that the Ripper did not leave the message (or any) I'm afraid I do not accept the hypothesis.

Phil

[lynn cates]

Ummm?

Hello David. Thanks for sharing your ideas.

"I killed twice because a Jew just saw me in Berner Street."

Ummm?

Cheers.
LC

[Damaso Marte]

If BSM killed Stride, what makes you think BSM also killed any of the other C5? BSM wasn't acting very Ripper-like.

[Abby Normal]

And then Stride would have shouted out ?
And what about a possible urge to kill ?

Yup.. Or perhaps when Schwartz saw him grab her,hands going up to her shoulders etc he was actually cutting her throat and did not see that much detail. Which would also explain the not crying out very loudly if she had a cut throat come to think about it.