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  • Fisherman
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    Monty!

    I am not sure that I like the rounding off you supply all your posts with nowadays. The "I saw a dead fish ..." thing, I mean.

    I find it slightly unnerving, for some peculiar reason.

    Fisherman

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  • DVV
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    Originally posted by Monty View Post
    Ah, so its assumption that leads you to this conclusion.

    Monty
    That they did inquire in the Wentworth Model Dwellings is hardly an assumption. They did ask them about the graffito, that's certain.

    I'm just telling you what I find more likely on the subject, Neil, and since the Met was criticized by the City Police for the erasure, they would have been pleased to prove them wrong.

    Warren would have simply been too happy if he could have said : "the people living there told us that the message was already there prior to the murder" instead of his mere : "it was blurred" - which DC Halse contested.

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  • Monty
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    Ah, so its assumption that leads you to this conclusion.

    Monty

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  • DVV
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    Originally posted by Monty View Post
    Why?

    Monty
    Hi Neil, because I'm inclined to believe DC Halse rather than Warren. Plus, the Met would have asked the people of the Dwellings, and if only one person had said "yes, I've seen this message yesterday", the Met, knowing they were being criticized, would have been too happy to record it.

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  • Monty
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    Originally posted by DVV View Post
    The graffito wasn't there for days, it's highly unlikely.
    Why?

    Monty

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  • lynn cates
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    awe

    Hello Jon. I would never think of branding the professionals as anything but that. When I look through the work of Abberline, Warren and a few others--especially the City of London Police--I stand in awe. Really.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello David. Although I eschew the title, I think one MUST be interested in fiction to pursue "Jack."

    Cheers.
    LC
    Ahh, well that explains why I have so much contention with these 'fringe' theories, ...I don't like fiction.
    Thanks for the heads-up Lynn.

    I guess being a fiction-lover does have its advantages, they get to dumb-down all the professionals as incompetent, and brand any witnesses they choose as liars. Which just paves the way for any type of nincompoop theories.

    Regards, Jon S.

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  • DVV
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    The graffito wasn't there for days, it's highly unlikely.

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  • Monty
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    Originally posted by caz View Post
    The thing is, given that the police acted swiftly and erased the writing while it was still dark, because they feared a 'mob' would read it and react angrily, it kind of contradicts the idea that these words - white on black - had been hanging around for hours, even days, in broad daylight, with no reaction whatsoever. Bear in mind, this wasn't a murder scene and nobody passing by would have known about the apron found beneath, once it had been picked up and taken away.

    Love,

    Caz
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    The words by themselves wouldnt have drawn such a reaction Caz, its the apron piece that adds the spice.

    Intentionally or not.

    Monty
    Last edited by Monty; 03-01-2012, 09:17 PM.

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  • lynn cates
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    erasure

    Hello Caroline.

    "The thing is, given that the police acted swiftly and erased the writing while it was still dark, because they feared a 'mob' would read it and react angrily, it kind of contradicts the idea that these words - white on black - had been hanging around for hours, even days, in broad daylight, with no reaction whatsoever."

    Not so sure. They might have thought there would be one.

    It DOES, however, contradict that there would be a riot if the GSG were not erased. For, if it were there for days, unerased, there was clearly no riot. On the other hand, neither was there a body in Mitre sq until that time.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • caz
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    Hi Bridewell,

    You asked:

    "...but would a Jew pretending to be a Gentile not choose a more obviously Gentile site than the stairway to a tenement inhabited predominantly by Jews?"

    I don't believe for one moment it was written by a Jew pretending to be a Gentile, I was just trying to make sense of this one word being misspelled. Personally I think it's more likely to have been the work of a Gentile who misspelled Jews out of contempt, which can happen by accident or design, as we can all see by the numerous variations of Pat Cornwell's name.

    The point of a Jew pretending to be a Gentile would presumably have been to show Gentiles in a bad light, by suggesting that one had defaced this spanking new, shiny bright and obviously Jewish site with a poorly spelled anti-Semitic message. That point would have been lost on an old Gentile wall surely?

    Love,

    Caz
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  • caz
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    The thing is, given that the police acted swiftly and erased the writing while it was still dark, because they feared a 'mob' would read it and react angrily, it kind of contradicts the idea that these words - white on black - had been hanging around for hours, even days, in broad daylight, with no reaction whatsoever. Bear in mind, this wasn't a murder scene and nobody passing by would have known about the apron found beneath, once it had been picked up and taken away.

    Love,

    Caz
    X
    Last edited by caz; 03-01-2012, 07:31 PM.

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  • DVV
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    Originally posted by Monty View Post
    Because its a possible clue.

    Not that its an ascertained one.

    The only reason the writing is in the equation is due to the apron piece, thats hardly proof either.

    Monty
    Agreed, of course.
    And a possible clue shouldn't have been erased.

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  • lynn cates
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    agreed

    Hello (again) Neil.

    "Most here view the removal from the deception aspect rather than prevention."

    Not I. I wonder the result had a mob seen the graffito. Bad police move; good human move.

    Heavens, we agreed! Gulp! (heh-heh)

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    nigh

    Hello Neil.

    "Multiple killers . . ."

    Umm, why plural? ONE multiple killer.

    " . . . working a small area with nigh on the same base characteristics?"

    Well, perhaps in the same way as Edinburgh is nigh on London.

    "Oh dear."

    Agreed. Now you're talking. (heh-heh)

    Cheers.
    LC

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