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  • Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Cris, Velma. The condition, "satyriasis," is the male analogue of the female condition "nymphomania." Or so I have been given to understand.

    Cheers.
    LC
    One of the problems with hypersexuality is that it is almost universally a disorganized symptom. There are several models of hypersexuality (compulsive, impulsive, etc.) but all of them boil down to two causes. The first is some kind of dementia, where a person loses any grasp on socially accepted behavior. Such people will also urinate in the corner, shout all the time, no filters. The second is an intense need to fulfill a desire immediately, and the need is so intense that the sufferer doesn't have time or the control to pursue socially acceptable channels.

    Basically, their state of mind is such that they can do very little to avoid capture. And Verzeni is a perfect example of that. And I'm not saying that JtR was some kind of Jackal like organized killer. But he did have more than enough control to proceed as though he were committing a crime, and would therefore need to avoid witnesses, have an avenue of escape, work quickly, etc. Satyriasis doesn't provide that kind of control. The best you can do is try to minimize the damage after the fact.
    The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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    • Insane?.....

      Originally posted by Michael W Richards View Post
      Hi Hunter,

      The theory put forward fits in layman's terms to a madman, as I suggested the 3 murders I omit were considered committed by. A go-to answer when they had no idea what was actually happening. This was not terminology used when referring to the first 2 cases and the probable motive, it was to cut open the women and remove internal organs from their abdomen. Yes, the killer would have to be criminally insane, but not necessarily in any overt way.

      To suggest that as a motive in Liz Strides case is pure speculative, there is no evidence that suggests mutilation was intended or desired....the opinion as to a continued presence of skill and anatomical knowledge with Kates killer is that there was not any, both Bond and Phillips assigned no particular talent to her killer....and Marys killer took her heart even though the abdomen was in essence emptied and the contents just there for the taking...including an excised uterus.

      I believe that the officials Ripper streak or Canonical Group likely has more to do with uninformed parties than it does with obvious matching motives among the dead women.

      Best regards,

      Mike R
      It seems to me that there are many words thrown around that a firm grasp of what they entail does not fit to how they are being used. Insanity does not allow for any style of organization to which the '5' murders attributed most frequently to 'JtR' show a large part of. In all of it, the evolution of each murder looked at separately is not seen, and it must be discovered in order to see what path is being taken in the first place in order to see the end result which is the canonical 5 (as it has been reported over and over).

      The most obvious of all things is that there are reports to other crimes that could give an insight into how the escalation happened, but has been ignored for 124 years because finding the base line, or even a stressor is not as important than one voicing an opinion about who they believe did it, most of the time without irrefutable proof.

      Not trying to discount your theory, more to the point that what was believed as insane 125 years ago is nothing more than a bad diet today. Treatable "Mental Illness" is at an all time high, and more and more people are being diagnosed with some type of disorder. Not to say that everyone is a bit crazy, but more to say everyone is a bit imbalanced with their own chemical output. So to get a balancing act on our chemical output helps each individual with their own cognitive reasoning abilities.
      It is not in the heart that hate begins but in the mind of those that seek the revenge of creation. Darrel Derek Stieben

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      • linkage

        Hello Errata. Sex linked to dementia? I like it (er, the link).

        Cheers.
        LC

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        • Hi towboydds,

          "It seems to me that there are many words thrown around that a firm grasp of what they entail does not fit to how they are being used".

          Since you quoted me I will assume you question my use of the words "madman" and criminally insane. In the context of my quote and in the context of a laymans comments which it was clarified as, I believe the words were and are adequate.

          "Insanity does not allow for any style of organization to which the '5' murders attributed most frequently to 'JtR' show a large part of."

          Are you suggesting there are no organized criminally Insane murderers? Surely not. Are you suggesting that we have a series of murders that were committed in organized fashion and that can be accurately attributed to one person? I would hope not, thats still pure speculation 120 odd years later.

          "In all of it, the evolution of each murder looked at separately is not seen, and it must be discovered in order to see what path is being taken in the first place in order to see the end result which is the canonical 5 (as it has been reported over and over)."

          The assumption here is that one man "evolved"....thats again, pure speculation.

          "The most obvious of all things is that there are reports to other crimes that could give an insight into how the escalation happened, but has been ignored for 124 years because finding the base line, or even a stressor is not as important than one voicing an opinion about who they believe did it, most of the time without irrefutable proof. "

          Again the unproven speculation that one man "evolved", and whats been missing or ignored for 124 years is the realization that the Canonical Group are not murders connected by any solid evidence, and there has been little if any analysis of the murders as independent acts, which despite modern and contemporary opinion, they most certainly are from a criminal standpoint.

          "Not trying to discount your theory, more to the point that what was believed as insane 125 years ago is nothing more than a bad diet today. Treatable "Mental Illness" is at an all time high, and more and more people are being diagnosed with some type of disorder. Not to say that everyone is a bit crazy, but more to say everyone is a bit imbalanced with their own chemical output. So to get a balancing act on our chemical output helps each individual with their own cognitive reasoning abilities."

          So you understand I have no "theory" and I use the word Insane to broadly cover the spectrum of potential mental illnesses known. As a layman would.

          I respectfully suggest looking for signs that one man modified his behavior to explain the inconsistencies in murders C3 thru C5 assumes the validity of the Canonical Group, something which I obviously do not.

          Best regards,

          Mike R

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