From Hell Letter DECODED

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  • Ven
    Detective
    • Mar 2019
    • 303

    #196
    lol, fair enough

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    • Ven
      Detective
      • Mar 2019
      • 303

      #197
      what about my hypothesis them?

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      • Ven
        Detective
        • Mar 2019
        • 303

        #198
        So what of my original points are incorrect?

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        • DJA
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          • May 2015
          • 4700

          #199
          Almost nobody here reads previous pages,so you're out of luck.

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          • Abby Normal
            Commissioner
            • Jun 2010
            • 11905

            #200
            Originally posted by Ven View Post
            So what of my original points are incorrect?
            ive said for years and just again recently the writer of from hell was probably intoxicated.
            "Is all that we see or seem
            but a dream within a dream?"

            -Edgar Allan Poe


            "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
            quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

            -Frederick G. Abberline

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            • erobitha
              Chief Inspector
              • Apr 2019
              • 1731

              #201
              Originally posted by Ven View Post
              So what of my original points are incorrect?
              Aside from your interpretation of what you think the letters are in the letter which are very much open to debate, the only other thing you theorised was that the writer may not have been drunk when they wrote it - ergo it is real? In a court of law that would probably be classed as hearsay - yours mainly. You need more.
              Author of 'Jack the Ripper: Threads' out now on Amazon > UK | USA | CA | AUS
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              • DJA
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                • May 2015
                • 4700

                #202
                "Mishter" ..... really?

                Might have been a deluded drunk pretending to be drunk.

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                • Al Bundy's Eyes
                  Chief Inspector
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 1776

                  #203
                  Originally posted by DJA View Post

                  A thesis on Casebook requires at least 40 pages.
                  20 pages must be an argument between Fish and Trev.
                  10 pages of garbage from Shylock and some Canadian guy.
                  5 pages of "in my opinion"s.
                  Some jokes from Frankenstein's brain and Dr Shoe.
                  Four pages of fact taken from Inquests and some curious newspaper reporting.
                  Best of luck!
                  Very true, but Dr Shoes jokes are funny. So where do you factor in?
                  Thems the Vagaries.....

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                  • Curious Cat
                    Detective
                    • Dec 2018
                    • 346

                    #204
                    Originally posted by DJA View Post
                    "Mishter" ..... really?

                    Might have been a deluded drunk pretending to be drunk.
                    If it is a kind of phonetic writing to create a sound while reading aloud/in the head and it's written to someone specific that sort of thing is usually done to mock the recipient. Like putting 'th' at the end of certain words to mock someone with a lisp.

                    No idea if George Lusk was noted to have any kind of speech impediment or just a unique tick in his voice but if it was the intention of the writer to mock how he spoke in the letter it may be why the spelling is odd.

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                    • DJA
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                      • May 2015
                      • 4700

                      #205
                      Lusk's wife inherited money that financed his music hall renovation business.
                      In 1889 he could not pay his Masonic dues.
                      Perhaps he had a drinking problem.

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                      • Robert St Devil
                        Inspector
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 1025

                        #206
                        Originally posted by erobitha View Post

                        ...

                        i would draw your attention to what I believe to be another genuine JTR letter which is the one which was sent 29th October to Dr Openshaw. The handwriting and style is incredibly similar to the From Hell letter. We also have the envelope with this letter. Plenty of letters to compare with this piece...
                        I can't commit to the articles having been written by the murderer but there are curiosities roaming about the 2 letters that you mentioned:

                        1. The letter to Dr Openshaw was addressed to London HOSPITAL; inside the letter, the writer spells the word as OSPITLE. Obviously the writer knew the correct spelling. Is this a case of wanting to ensure that the letter arrived at its' intended destination (Hospital) while knowingly duncing the spelling and language of the letter (ospitle)? And could this duncing extend to other correspondences (codding, Sor, prasarved, mishter)
                        2. Between the 2 letters, the writer begins the words "kidney, kidne & kidny" with a standard k. But throughout the rest of the letter, the writer uses the cursive k which resembles an R (as in Lusk, Jack, took, cocked). Is it pure random luck that the writer of the Openshaw letter mimics a nuance of the From Hell letter? Or was the From Hell public knowledge by the time the Openshaw letter was sent... as-in could the scripting be mimicked off of a facsimile or something similar??
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                        there,s nothing new, only the unexplored

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                        • DJA
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                          • May 2015
                          • 4700

                          #207
                          Originally posted by Robert St Devil View Post
                          The letter to Dr Openshaw was addressed to London HOSPITAL; inside the letter, the writer spells the word as OSPITLE.
                          Pathological curator, nonetheless.

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                          • DJA
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                            • May 2015
                            • 4700

                            #208
                            Sutton was the previous curator.Horrocks took over in 1887.

                            Here is Sutton's microscope.
                            Attached Files

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                            • Kattrup
                              Sergeant
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 938

                              #209
                              Originally posted by Robert St Devil View Post
                              1. The letter to Dr Openshaw was addressed to London HOSPITAL; inside the letter, the writer spells the word as OSPITLE. Obviously the writer knew the correct spelling. Is this a case of wanting to ensure that the letter arrived at its' intended destination (Hospital) while knowingly duncing the spelling and language of the letter (ospitle)? And could this duncing extend to other correspondences (codding, Sor, prasarved, mishter)
                              I think another option is that the writer looked him up, copied the name, title etc. which is why it’s painstakingly correct.

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                              • DJA
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                                • May 2015
                                • 4700

                                #210
                                Given it was addressed to

                                Dr Openshaw
                                Pathological curator
                                London hospital
                                White chapel

                                where would the writer have looked him up?

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