JTR compared to JFK

[pinkmoon]

Just finished reading"mortal error" makes a very strong case of the last shot coming by accident from secret service agent Hickeys ar15 assault rifle by accident of course.I think the whole thing about J.F.K is that the American people find it hard to except that a giant was felled by such a small insignificant loon like Oswald.The British try to make jack the ripper into a killer who might have been a famous well known person or even a prince we even try to give him superhuman powers .We seem to think that because the crime is so great that they must have been carried out by great people instead of small insignificant people.Something else that has not been mentioned over the past few weeks is that how easy and how cheap it was for a loon like Oswald to purchase a lethal fire arm but you can't mention anything about gun control because it's a major infringement of civil liberties.

[Amanda Sumner]

Just want to put my tuppenny worth in. Sometimes the simplest explanation is more likely to be the truth than anything complicated, and I have been quite happy to believe that Oswald acted alone until I decided to read more about the case. What disturbs me is that there is not one piece of evidence that has not been tampered with. Even the autopsy photos were doctored and staged. The car was tampered with before the official photos were taken, statements were changed and photos confiscated. Witness's were also eliminated from the Warren report and even the evidence of the bullets was inconsistent . Oswald, himself, was conveniently shot before he made any formal statement. The whole story and the way the investigation was handled is very strange.
However, I think that what the first post on this thread was trying to say, IMO, that despite the amount of evidence available on this case,(and to many it still remains unsolved,) what chance does the Ripper case have when it happened 75 years earlier with very little evidence to go on?
Comparing the two cases, other than that, is silly, though, because they are entirely different.

[pinkmoon]

Just want to put my tuppenny worth in. Sometimes the simplest explanation is more likely to be the truth than anything complicated, and I have been quite happy to believe that Oswald acted alone until I decided to read more about the case. What disturbs me is that there is not one piece of evidence that has not been tampered with. Even the autopsy photos were doctored and staged. The car was tampered with before the official photos were taken, statements were changed and photos confiscated. Witness's were also eliminated from the Warren report and even the evidence of the bullets was inconsistent . Oswald, himself, was conveniently shot before he made any formal statement. The whole story and the way the investigation was handled is very strange.
However, I think that what the first post on this thread was trying to say, IMO, that despite the amount of evidence available on this case,(and to many it still remains unsolved,) what chance does the Ripper case have when it happened 75 years earlier with very little evidence to go on?
Comparing the two cases, other than that, is silly, though, because they are entirely different.

Hi Amanda,read mortal error I personally think the theory in this book explains everything I have never believed in any conspiracy and I do believe Oswald acted alone however there certainly was some cover up starting in the hospital where jfk was taken and his brother Bobby seems to have got involved on the same day why? read mortal error it makes perfect sense.

[Amanda Sumner]

Hi Amanda,read mortal error I personally think the theory in this book explains everything I have never believed in any conspiracy and I do believe Oswald acted alone however there certainly was some cover up starting in the hospital where jfk was taken and his brother Bobby seems to have got involved on the same day why? read mortal error it makes perfect sense.

I will, Pinkmoon. There was definitely something fishy going on.

[FISHY1118]

it amazes me that people still think Oswald acted alone ...

[Herlock Sholmes]

it amazes me that people still think Oswald acted alone ...

It would do. You’re a conspiracy theorist. Try reading Reclaiming History by Bugliosi.

[FISHY1118]

Yer you would believe that rubbish, wouldnt you . The whole worlds knows that oswald couldnt hit the side of a barn door with a canon let alone kill kennedy from where he was with a sh.itty rifle . which was said to be one of the worst rifles ever made . ... you've been had my friend, and for a very long time i might add . NOW I KNOW WHERE YOU GET YOUR STUPID THINKING FROM

[Herlock Sholmes]

Yer you would believe that rubbish, wouldnt you . The whole worlds knows that oswald couldnt hit the side of a barn door with a canon let alone kill kennedy from where he was with a sh.itty rifle . which was said to be one of the worst rifles ever made . ... you've been had my friend, and for a very long time i might add . NOW I KNOW WHERE YOU GET YOUR STUPID THINKING FROM

From the most in depth book in the history of true crime. One that took the biggest part of twenty years to research and write. One that was researched and written by one of the world’s most respected prosecutors.

Compared to Stephen Knight’s retelling of an old man’s discredited fairy story.

You do realise don’t Fishy that you are the only person that believes in Knight? Do you understand that? You criticise someone as respected as Bugliosi and praise someone as universally derided as Knight.

Its like rubbishing Stephen Hawking whilst at the same time praising David Icke. Come to think of it though I bet your bookshelves are groaning under the weight of David Icke’s books?

[FISHY1118]

Your stuck in the seventies, i can t believe you actually believe it was Oswald . STILL laughing my head off .

[FISHY1118]

REMEMBERED WHAT I SAID ''IF IT DOESN'T AGREE WITH EXPERIMENT ITS A LIE'' . THE BEST SNIPERS IN THE LAST FIFTY YEARS STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DUPLICATE WAS OSWALD DID. SO DONT KID YOURSELF. IT WASN'T OSWALD.


EDDOWES ....... SOUNDS FAMILIAR RIGHT .

[FISHY1118]

from the most in depth book in the history of true crime. One that took the biggest part of twenty years to research and write. One that was researched and written by one of the world’s most respected prosecutors.

not worth the paper it was printed on.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Your stuck in the seventies, i can t believe you actually believe it was Oswald . STILL laughing my head off .

Stuck in the 70’s!!

Do you actually read your posts?

Do you know what irony is?

You believe in a theory that was disproven in the 70’s

[Herlock Sholmes]

REMEMBERED WHAT I SAID ''IF IT DOESN'T AGREE WITH EXPERIMENT ITS A LIE'' . THE BEST SNIPERS IN THE LAST FIFTY YEARS STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DUPLICATE WAS OSWALD DID. SO DONT KID YOURSELF. IT WASN'T OSWALD.


EDDOWES ....... SOUNDS FAMILIAR RIGHT .

The shots were reproduced and improved upon. It’s been done. How brilliant a sniper did Oswald need to be?

Three shots. One completely missed. One hit Kennedy in the back when he’d have been aiming for the head. Then one head shot. Only 1 and a half hits out of three. Not great shooting but it got the job done.

. EDDOWES ....... SOUNDS FAMILIAR RIGHT .:lol

How could I forget a post that was nonsensical even by your standards. Eddowes injuries haven’t been reproduced! No one has taken a corpse to Mitre Squate at 1.40 am on a September night to try and recreate what the ripper did.

Show me the absolute, indisputable, agreed upon evidence that the ripper couldn’t have done what he did. Show me where no one disputes that he couldn’t have done it. Not one doctor or even two. No cherry-picking.

[Herlock Sholmes]

not worth the paper it was printed on.

Not worth the Forum space that it was typed on.

[mpriestnall]

About the only person there on the day who didn't shoot JFK, was Oswald...