Pentagram

[Daniel Gillotti]

Hi:
I'm not saying the Ripper didn't murder anyone before or after the C5 murders.

I'm saying and i do believe the C5 victims were part of the rippers black magic or satanic human sacrifice ritual. Given how the murders were committed in a short time frame of two months, the close proximity of the murders. The brutal near decapitation of their NECKS missing organs, kidney, uterus, heart, most likely blood too. The order that they were murdered in.

N-ichols
C-hapman
S-tride
E-ddowes
K-kelly

If you place their first initials from their last names in the order of them being murdered and place the initials into the PENTAGRAM starting with N-1 for Nichols and so on and create you satanic Pentagram that spells NECKS...


N-1 S-3


E-4 K-5

C-2


I have attached to this short thread a pic of a pentagram I made in order of the murders that were committed, along with a pic of a Devil, goat whatever for effect.

I'm sorry in advance if the attachment is blurry, that is why i wrote out the pentagram; just draw a line from N-1 to C-2 and so on... and complete the pentagram NECKS...

Again, from my first thread Tittled: Premeditated Murders, these 5 woman were selected for satanic human sacrifice most likely the most horrific that has ever been done before...because their initials of their last name unfortunately started with N C S E K.

If you wrap your mind around this for a moment, you can see that the probability of this being a coincidence is astronomical given the totality of the C5 victims brutal, horrific murders...

Daniel S. Gillotti

THE MAJESTIC SOLVER

[DVV]

Waow.
I'm impressed.
How would you explain the ascertained fact that your father made you with one finger?

Amitiés,
David

[Daniel Gillotti]

Premeditated Murder

Waow.
I'm impressed.
How would you explain the ascertained fact that your father made you with one finger?

Amitiés,
David

WOW... WHAT A IGNORANT COMMENT AND COMING FROM A SUPER... I'M TOTALLY CONVINCE THAT THESE TYPE OF FORUMS ARE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING, LET ALONE SOLVE ANYTHING INCLUDING THE RIPPER IDENTITY

DVV, YOU HAD REAL FITS WITH MY PREMEDITATED MURDER THREAD LAUGHING LIKE A JACKAL NOW... I SHARE POSSIBLE EVIDENCE OF A PRE-PLAN SATANIC HUMAN SACRIFICE AND ALL YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IS INSULT ME AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE DRAWN INTO A PISSING MATCH WITH ANY OF YOU.
IF YOU THINK YOU CAN SOLVE THE RIPPER MURDERS WITHOUT THIS DISCOVERY... GOOD LUCK... ONE THING I PROMISE TO DO IS READ YOUR PAST THREADS...AND MOST LIKELY LAUGH MY ARSE OFF...

TO EVERY ONE ELSE: THE LAST THING I WOULD DO IS INSULT YOU... OR YOUR THREADS AND YOUR THEORIES....EVEN THOUGH I MIGHT NOT AGREE...

[doris]

Iam sorry Daniel, I thought this site was for serious Ripper research. Not for spouting of ludicrous theories.

I believe DVV laboured under that misaprehension too.

I acknowledge that his reply was a little rude, but c'mon mate. NECKS, because of their names and some pentagram twattery. I believe you need a tin foil hat type conspiracy theory website to air your views, not here.

toodle-oo

doris

Oh and posting in all caps makes me want to kill you, look at this -

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/ALLCAPS

That's you that is!

[corey123]

Daniel,

Your theory has NO basis whatso ever. The murder sites nor the order of deaths spell NECKS, and in my opinion, Jack killed Martha too.

No, there was NO demonic force or idiotic ritual. There has NEVER been a case of a demonic ritualistic serial killer, keep feading the myth why don't you.

I happen to support David and his ideas, he has very interesting finds and his comments were NOT out of line.

We are here to seriously research a huge field of study, we call ourselves "ripperologists" for a reason, to dispeal the myths of this case.

You are doing the exact opposite.

No offense mate, but do try to act responsible and quit feading this type of crap.

I am a ripperologists who likes to view the psychological view point in a murder, and the myth that demonic influences can motivate a killer is highly mythisized.

This is offinding me and other psychologists and criminologists.

Yours truly

[doris]

Daniel,

Your theory has NO basis whatso ever. The murder sites nor the order of deaths spell NECKS, and in my opinion, Jack killed Martha too.

No, there was NO demonic force or idiotic ritual. There has NEVER been a case of a demonic ritualistic serial killer, keep feading the myth why don't you.

I happen to support David and his ideas, he has very interesting finds and his comments were NOT out of line.

We are here to seriously research a huge field of study, we call ourselves "ripperologists" for a reason, to dispeal the myths of this case.

You are doing the exact opposite.

No offense mate, but do try to act responsible and quit feading this type of crap.

I am a ripperologists who likes to view the psychological view point in a murder, and the myth that demonic influences can motivate a killer is highly mythisized.

This is offinding me and other psychologists and criminologists.

Yours truly

Phew!
So I didn't go too far for a new boy then?

I was a bit worried.

cheerio
doris

[corey123]

Doris,

No, your fine,

Welcome to the forums by the way. .

Great way to start off huh?

Yours truly

[doris]

Hehe thanks corey, you are the first person to say hullo to me.

I did create a thread saying hullo and asking all the questions that have puzzled me.

Perhaps you could answer some of them for me?
I have no doubt that they are idiot questions that any Ripperologist who has done 5 minutes of research knows the answer to, but I would be chuffed if someone could help me with them.

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=4008

thanks again for my first greeting

doris

[corey123]

Doris,

No question is an idiot question, we all start somewhere.

Sure, I will try my best.

[doris]

Thanks corey.

doris

[Mike Covell]

Hi Daniel,

The problem with this theory of yours, is that although the initials might be exactly the same as those on the pentagram, the bodies were not laid in the order of the pentagram, with Chapman and Eddowes in the wrong place.

[Limehouse]

Hi Daniel, and welcome.

I do have a few problems with your theory, aside from the fact that i don't believe in the occult, and the problems I have are as follows:

1) not all of the women used their official surnames among their friends and street peers so it is unlikely the killer would have known the true surnames of all of the vicitims
2) your theory presupposes that the killer selected the victims according to their surnames to spell the word 'necks' - but what is the point?
3) in terms of the location of the killings- how could the killer be sure that the victim would selct that location? Locations were aways going to be highly risky for what the killer had in mind - but those selected were reasonably isolated and private given the time of day (Hanbury Street being, perhaps, the most risky) so the idea of the locations being picked to satisfy your theory is problematic to me.

[DVV]

Hi Daniel,

no I wasn't rude, just alluding to the "finger of God" as in Michelangelo, since your theory is completely irrational.

You said I'm ignorant.
Certainly so.

But this site helps me learn and understand, step by step...

How can you read all those threads, all those books on JtR, all those press reports...and come with such a theory...??

Isn't that showing disrespect toward researchers on boards ?
Toward authors like SPE, Garry Wroe, Philip Hutchinson, Rob Clack and many others who are posting here ?

So no, I wasn't rude, or let's say I simply made a ruke joke...nothing more...

I apologies if you felt hurt, sincerely...but please, use this site properly, it's wonderful, and you'll soon understand that your own theory is also a rude joke for many of us.

Amitiés,
David

edit : Hello Doris, thanks for your support and welcome! Amitiés.

[j.r-ahde]

Hello you all!

First of all: sincerely welcome to Daniel to these sites!

But I cannot help making a pentagram myself too;

Let's put the calling names of the C5 in order of the murders;

P olly
A nnie
L iz
C atherine
M ary

And since the satanists like to turn everything in a reverse direction;

McLap!

So, here we have The Ripper's last-name. Does anyone know, if there were any McLaps in the East End at the time?!

Sorry to make a joke, Daniel, but there are so many phony theories on these boards!

All the best
Jukka

[Daniel Gillotti]

Pentagram

Hi Daniel,

The problem with this theory of yours, is that although the initials might be exactly the same as those on the pentagram, the bodies were not laid in the order of the pentagram, with Chapman and Eddowes in the wrong place.

Hi:
thanks for responding Mike, and I'm going to answer your question the best that i can. I personally don't believe the ripper cared to murder the C5 in order of a topographical pentagram from an overhead view sake.

I believe his top priority was to make sure he killed them in order of the satanic pentagram. For rituals and other ceremonies the written Pentagram would be more practical.

Now from what i read on this forum, i saved it somewhere, is how after the murders, i believe around 1890 D'onston was in business with a Ms. Cremers (last name?) there new found business wasn't doing to well...and Ms. Cremers stated that she caught D'onston drawing an upside down triangle on his door...he told her it was to ward off evil spirits!!

I believe his act helps support this pentagram theories, and if he wasn't caught by Cremers he'd finish the pentagram and perform a satanic ceremonies to save his new business.

Also, cremers spooked out by his odd behavior searched his room and found under his bed a tin or a box with 5 bloody NECK-ties?

thanks for asking me to elaborate instead of attacking me like the others and i will answer all civil questions... I have more info but i just got home from work and need to hit the hay, talk to you soon
Dan...