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  • #31
    Dan,


    I will stop debating your theory. Sorry to be a thorn in your side. I might make a suggestion, get used to being debate an haing your ideas challenged, if you don't like it, then I am afraid you will be all thorned up.

    Yours truly
    Washington Irving:

    "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

    Stratford-on-Avon

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Daniel Gillotti View Post
      Corey:

      sorry to re-burst your bubble and you should review the autopsy report before inserting your foot in the mouth. stateting the primary cause of death was the laceration to their NECKS. However i will agree upon the garroting or strangling to unconsciouses before the death blow to their NECKS...I can see you are going to be a thorn in my side about this topic...
      DAN
      lol, LOL fecking LOL.

      As I have previously suggested.

      Read some quality Ripper books.
      Sugden's and Begg's are particularly recommended.
      you silly , silly boy

      doris
      ..."(this is my literary discovery and is copyright protected)"...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by doris View Post

        an utter tit.
        Their both nouns where I come from.
        Best Wishes,
        Hunter
        ____________________________________________

        When evidence is not to be had, theories abound. Even the most plausible of them do not carry conviction- London Times Nov. 10.1888

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        • #34
          Dan,

          Sorry, I didn't have time to respond to you with my last reply.

          Here is a full response. For one, I think you are the one who needs to read the autopsey reports again. Second, you say I need to read them again and then agree with me?? Is this part of your plan?

          They WERE asphixiated before death and "Jack the Ripper" never attempted to severe their heads from their bodies, but if he did, I assure you he would have.

          Next, I hope you didn't join this forum to shout your ideas and think others won't debate and argue against them. I am no thorn, just someone who likes to debate on 'ripperology'.

          I think, truly think, you have lost your marbles here.

          I think you aren't going to like your stay here, the way you freak out everytime someone tries to debate your wild idea.


          Like I said before, the order of death spells NCSEK not NECKS. The order of location(clockwise) spells NSEKC not NECKS and(counterclockwise) spells NCKES, again NOT NECKS.

          You can't mis-arrange them any way you wish to fit your theory.

          Lastly, like I have stated time and time again(I will write it in bold so you might get it this time) THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A SINGLE CASE OF A SATANIC RITUALISTIC SERIAL KILLER! EVER!!!!!!


          To help you see the reasons why a killer would do some of the things you think are related to this "Black magic" crap:

          The reason why Jack most likely took the organs was to take them as trouphies, to re-live the murders.

          Also,Bob is right, you do need to correct your grammer, at least try. As you may see, my grammer is not too good, but I try to make it readable.

          In the end, your theory is not going to help get people motivated, it will help them ignore pointless topics such as this, and remember that there are some who like the fairy tales more than fact. However, if you were interested in this, you might actually do some research worth seeing.

          Good luck.

          Yours truly

          p.s I know you will snap at me like a wounded dog, but I know that is because you won't have anything logical to say in its place.
          Washington Irving:

          "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

          Stratford-on-Avon

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Hunter View Post
            Their both nouns where I come from.
            very funny, Hunter!

            Only, being from a farming region in Tennessee myself, I suspect the noun to which you refer is actually udder.

            but then perhaps Doris meant "twit" for the second noun

            just guessing here and giggling.

            curious

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            • #36
              Curious, Hunter,

              I guess we are the only tennessiens here, or are there others?

              Yours truly
              Washington Irving:

              "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

              Stratford-on-Avon

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              • #37
                Originally posted by curious View Post
                very funny, Hunter!

                Only, being from a farming region in Tennessee myself, I suspect the noun to which you refer is actually udder.

                but then perhaps Doris meant "twit" for the second noun

                just guessing here and giggling.

                curious
                I call it as I see it. Everybody going tit for tat on this thread is udderly ridiculous anyway.
                Best Wishes,
                Hunter
                ____________________________________________

                When evidence is not to be had, theories abound. Even the most plausible of them do not carry conviction- London Times Nov. 10.1888

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Hunter View Post
                  I call it as I see it. Everybody going tit for tat on this thread is udderly ridiculous anyway.
                  EGG-actly! what a hoot.

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                  • #39
                    Oh dear!

                    Originally posted by Daniel Gillotti View Post
                    Wow....

                    Here's a tip, if you want people to read what you have offererd us it might a good idea to try writing in English as that is the language most used on these boards.

                    Bob:

                    You must be the geniuse of this forum and i commend you on deciphering my thread... the whole near decapitation via by head or necks is impressive.

                    I am so ashamed of my writing skills now, that i decided to take your grammar 101 class; only after you solve the ripper murders.

                    Fortunately for me i don't have to worry about that, not in your lifetime.

                    This is what i mean about deflecting from the fact. Instead of writing about my thread you attack me personally over English grammar errors!!! I can't wait to read your past threads.

                    Five woman were murdered in a span of two months, three of them in the month of September, and two of them in one night. All were incapacitate either by garroting or strangulation before the fatal laceration to their carotid arteries and severe cut to their NECKS causing near decapitation.

                    At least three of the 5 woman were disemboweled with severe mutilation on the body's with missing organs uterus, kidney, heart...

                    Bob, your the resident genius here...let me ask you do we have a pattern here with these murders. These Horrific murders cannot be in your worthless expert opinion worthy of something as Diabolical as a satanic ritual, human offering, black magic whatever...

                    I don't have all the answers and i never said i did however, given the totality of these murders and the discovery, how their initials of their last name in order of the way they were killed rearranges in a pentagram to spell NECKS the primary means of their deaths is something that need to be investigated.

                    I don't care if no one agrees to this and i am not forcing the issue with anyone i thought it was a clever discovery and i wanted to share it to get people motivated.

                    If you can go back to 1888 or after and someone, anyone, discovered what i am sharing with you; don't you think the police would have said, hey, were is that cop wannabe D'onston who's very interested in these murders at; and didn't he brag about or practice black magic...lets question him again.

                    Bob, i expect my grammar correction soon... thats all your really good at Dan
                    You may be right Dan, but at least I am good for something! Anyway onto the grammar lesson.


                    You must be the geniuse (genius) of this forum and i (I) commend you on deciphering my thread... the whole near decapitation via by head or necks is impressive. (incomprehensible)

                    I am so ashamed of my writing skills now,(so you should be) that i (I) decided to take your grammar 101 class; only after you solve the ripper (Ripper) murders.

                    Fortunately for me i (I) don't have to worry about that, not in your lifetime.

                    This is what i (I) mean about deflecting from the fact. Instead of writing about my thread you attack me personally over English grammar errors!!! (It’s not a case of that dear boy, it’s simply that you are writing gibberish and we can’t understand what you are trying to say. Ask your teacher to help you out with some basic writing skills. Is English your first language?)I can't wait to read your past threads. (Which is exactly what I suggested you do, read everyone’s past threads as they all know a lot more about the case than you do.)

                    Five woman (women plural) were murdered in a span of two months, three of them in the month of September, and two of them in one night. All were incapacitate( incapacitated past tense) either by garroting (garrotting) or strangulation ( garrotting is strangulation – oxymoron) before the fatal laceration to their carotid arteries and severe cut to their NECKS ( necks -no capitalisation)causing near decapitation.

                    At least three of the 5 woman were disembowled (disembowelled) with severe mutilation on the body's (bodies - plural of body, not possessive) with missing organs uterus, kidney, heart...

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                    • #40
                      Part 2

                      Bob, your (you’re – contraction of you are – thank you for saying so) the resident genius here...let me ask you do we have a pattern here with these murders. (If you wish to ask then you must end with one of these ‘?’ – inquisitive) These Horrific (horrific) murders cannot be in your worthless expert opinion ( an opinion is either expert or worthless- pick one) worthy of something as Diabolical as a satanic ritual, human offering, black magic whatever... (are you going to finish the sentence or let us guess?)

                      I don't have all the answers and i (I) never said i (I) did however, given the totality of these murders and the discovery, ( nonsense, gibberish) how their ( the) initials of their last name in order of the way they were killed (a method cannot be regulated by time)rearranges in a pentagram to spell NECKS the primary means of their deaths is something that need to be investigated.(that’s already been done at the inquests)

                      I don't care if no one agrees to this and i (I) am not forcing the issue with anyone i (I)thought it was a clever discovery ( well I hope you know better now) and i(I) wanted to share it to get people motivated. ( to do what?)

                      If you can go back to 1888 or after and someone, anyone, discovered what i (I)am sharing with you; don't you think the police would have said, hey, were (where) is that cop wannabe D'onston who's very interested in these murders at; ( gibberish)and didn't he brag about or practice black magic...lets question him again. (direct speech should be enclosed by inverted commas)

                      Bob, i (I) expect my grammar correction soon... thats (that’s – contraction of that is) all your
                      ( you’re-contraction of you are) really good at ( we usually end sentences with a full stop)

                      Well overall I can give no more than 2/20. Very poor grammar, abysmal sentence construction obviously needs remedial teaching before moving on to the 8th Grade.
                      Hope you found this usefull!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Bob Hinton View Post

                        At least three of the 5 woman were disembowled (disembowelled) with severe mutilation on the body's (bodies - plural of body, not possessive) with missing organs uterus, kidney, heart...
                        Hi Bob.

                        You forget the colon after "organs" (I mean the punctuation, not the knobbly purple thing that poop travels through).
                        “Sans arme, sans violence et sans haine”

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                        • #42
                          Jesus wept....

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                          • #43
                            Hello corey123!

                            Originally posted by corey123 View Post
                            Dan,

                            Sorry to snap at you, but I mean every word I said.

                            That was nothing uncivil.

                            We are ment to dispell myths, not feed them. There has NEVER been one single case of a satanic ritualistic serial killer, and I doubt there ever will.

                            The names don't spell NECKS, not the order of death, nor the order of location.

                            Phil,

                            Maybe he was a hippe, who knows.

                            Yours truly
                            I like this post of yours!

                            But just one thing; The Charles Manson murders did have some satanistic ritual themes.

                            I will add the following statement, anyway; There is very, very probably nothing ritualistic with Jack the Ripper!

                            All the best
                            Jukka
                            "When I know all about everything, I am old. And it's a very, very long way to go!"

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                            • #44
                              Hello you all!

                              Trying to get back to the topic of this thread;

                              Why Jacky would have made a pentagram around the murder sites?! For the satanists from outer-space?!

                              All the best
                              Jukka
                              "When I know all about everything, I am old. And it's a very, very long way to go!"

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                              • #45
                                I think it's a nifty coincidence and could probably get a book written about it, but as a serious theory? I just don't see why the Ripper would want the first letter pf his victims' surnames to spell 'necks'. What would be the point in that? That and these being ritualistic killings is a bit far fetched.

                                The killer must've been dressed like any other man in the area at the time otherwise he'd have been caught (not necessarily in the act, but he sure as sh*t would've been a target for the police if anyone clocked him in the street looking any different from the average Joe), and these murders don't seem planned any more than the 'go out, bring knife, try my luck' stage, so I doubt whoever it was was disguised as a poorly dressed man. That and I doubt there would've been many occult books and enthusiasts in Whitechapel at the time of the murders, so where he'd have gotten the idea to perform some satanic murders from, I don't know.

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