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  • #16
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    Originally posted by DVV View Post
    Hi Daniel,

    no I wasn't rude, just alluding to the "finger of God" as in Michelangelo, since your theory is completely irrational.

    You said I'm ignorant.
    Certainly so.

    But this site helps me learn and understand, step by step...

    How can you read all those threads, all those books on JtR, all those press reports...and come with such a theory...??

    Isn't that showing disrespect toward researchers on boards ?
    Toward authors like SPE, Garry Wroe, Philip Hutchinson, Rob Clack and many others who are posting here ?

    So no, I wasn't rude, or let's say I simply made a ruke joke...nothing more...

    I apologies if you felt hurt, sincerely...but please, use this site properly, it's wonderful, and you'll soon understand that your own theory is also a rude joke for many of us.

    Amitiés,
    David

    edit : Hello Doris, thanks for your support and welcome! Amitiés.
    DVV: thanks for clarity, I'm sorry i snapped back, this is a great forum with excellent researchers...I have a lot of respect for all of you and i discovered most of my material here on this great forum, with a wealth of info. i believe the ripper murders can still be solved... I have more info on what i have been working on and i will disclose it soon... Dan

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    • #17
      Daniel,

      OK. I will try this too, and I will do this off the top of my head after 40 years of reading, writing, studying, trawling through book after book, paper after paper, document after document, library after library, having pleaded left right and centre with authority after authority, officious official after officious official, annoyed the blazes out of my friends who wanted me to go down the pub and see a bit more of life, lost countless hours of sleep researching, missed countless meals....ok I will do this too... ONCE.



      P olly Nicholls
      A nnie Chapman
      E lizabeth Stride
      C atharine Eddowes
      E Lizabeth Fisher (Lizzie Fisher as MJK was ALSO known as)

      Peace, man. Does this mean JTR was a Late Victorian Hippie?

      All those years.. and I didn't see it. How could I have been so ignorant?

      I am not taking the mick. Just an example of doing something I will never try again. At least I have done that too, now, and wasted another 5 minutes of my life. Oh well, could be worse. I could have been a Third Lanark supporter.

      best wishes

      Phil

      PS Welcome Doris. Hope you enjoy the boards here. There are some good people on here mate!
      Last edited by Phil Carter; 02-06-2010, 06:08 PM.
      Chelsea FC. TRUE BLUE. 💙


      Justice for the 96 = achieved
      Accountability? ....

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      • #18
        Dan,

        Sorry to snap at you, but I mean every word I said.

        That was nothing uncivil.

        We are ment to dispell myths, not feed them. There has NEVER been one single case of a satanic ritualistic serial killer, and I doubt there ever will.

        The names don't spell NECKS, not the order of death, nor the order of location.

        Phil,

        Maybe he was a hippe, who knows.

        Yours truly
        Washington Irving:

        "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

        Stratford-on-Avon

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
          Daniel,

          OK. I will try this too, and I will do this off the top of my head after 40 years of reading, writing, studying, trawling through book after book, paper after paper, document after document, library after library, having pleaded left right and centre with authority after authority, officious official after officious official, annoyed the blazes out of my friends who wanted me to go down the pub and see a bit more of life, lost countless hours of sleep researching, missed countless meals....ok I will do this too... ONCE.



          P olly Nicholls
          A nnie Chapman
          E lizabeth Stride
          C atharine Eddowes
          E Lizabeth Fisher (Lizzie Fisher as MJK was ALSO known as)

          Peace, man. Does this mean JTR was a Late Victorian Hippie?

          All those years.. and I didn't see it. How could I have been so ignorant?

          I am not taking the mick. Just an example of doing something I will never try again. At least I have done that too, now, and wasted another 5 minutes of my life. Oh well, could be worse. I could have been a Third Lanark supporter.

          best wishes

          Phil

          PS Welcome Doris. Hope you enjoy the boards here. There are some good people on here mate!
          Phil:
          cute post I'm gonna do you one better and not waist more than 5 minutes to respond or 40 something years of research.

          However the ripper didn't fashion a knife made out of PEACE and nearly decapitate their NECKS with it did he now. I don't have do re-educate you on the 5 womans primary means of their murders was their NECKS were slit open to their vertebrae. PEACE DAN... TWO MINUTES FLAT...

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          • #20
            Dan,

            Sorry to burst your bubble, but their means of their death were asphixiation, then severation of the major arteries in their throats.

            Another theory out the window.
            Washington Irving:

            "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

            Stratford-on-Avon

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            • #21
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              Originally posted by corey123 View Post
              Dan,

              Sorry to burst your bubble, but their means of their death were asphixiation, then severation of the major arteries in their throats.

              Another theory out the window.
              Corey:

              sorry to re-burst your bubble and you should review the autopsy report before inserting your foot in the mouth. stateting the primary cause of death was the laceration to their NECKS. However i will agree upon the garroting or strangling to unconsciouses before the death blow to their NECKS...I can see you are going to be a thorn in my side about this topic...
              DAN

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Daniel Gillotti View Post
                DVV: thanks for clarity, I'm sorry i snapped back, this is a great forum with excellent researchers...I have a lot of respect for all of you and i discovered most of my material here on this great forum, with a wealth of info. i believe the ripper murders can still be solved... I have more info on what i have been working on and i will disclose it soon... Dan
                Thanks Dan,

                and then I beg your pardon twice.
                Keep posting and try to make a balance between your own gut feelings,interests, etc, and.....the rest.

                Amitiés,
                David

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                • #23
                  Dan,

                  I have a number of questions.

                  What particular satanic ritual is being practiced?

                  What group is known to practice it?

                  What is the purpose of the ritual?

                  A ritual, by its nature, is repeated. When was the ritual repeated?

                  By the same nature, when was it performed earlier in history?
                  Dave McConniel

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                  • #24
                    Don't you know the Old Nichol High Rip Up One Again Satanic Gang ?

                    Very dangerous.

                    Amitiés,
                    David

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                    • #25
                      Hi Dan, the problem with the O'Donnell Manuscript is that as a source of information it is highly dubious.
                      • O'Donnell was said to have met Vittoria Cremers in the 1935, which is some 40+ years after the fact.
                      • Cremers claims that Collins saw these things, and not herself, which again is highly dubious.
                      • O'Donnell was a reporter, at that time, for The Sunday Graphic, a tabloid newspaper established in 1915.
                      Regards Mike

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                      • #26
                        Oh Daniel!

                        If you wish to save yourself from further ridicule I suggest you wind your neck in and start trying to learn. We don’t need any more Krazy Karens on these boards thank you.

                        First off your assertion that the killer “nearly decapitate their necks” is nonsense; you cannot decapitate a neck only a head. The word has its root in the Latin caput, capita, meaning head.

                        I would suggest that you get yourself a good grounding in the case before making any wild assertions as to why these women were killed.

                        If after that you want to pursue your theory of weird black magic rituals, carry on, we can all do with a good laugh now and then!

                        Here’s a tip, if you want people to read what you have offered us it might be a good idea to try writing in English as that is the language most used on these boards.

                        Your line:
                        “cute post I'm gonna do you one better and not waist more than 5 minutes to respond or 40 something years of research. “
                        Is still baffling most of us!
                        Last edited by Bob Hinton; 02-07-2010, 01:52 PM.

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                        • #27
                          I think it was Tabram, Smith, and MacKenzie as well, and it wasn't a Satanic pentagram but a Luciferian Octagon.

                          Mike
                          huh?

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by Bob Hinton View Post
                            If you wish to save yourself from further ridicule I suggest you wind your neck in and start trying to learn. We don’t need any more Krazy Karens on these boards thank you.

                            First off your assertion that the killer “nearly decapitate their necks” is nonsense; you cannot decapitate a neck only a head. The word has its root in the Latin caput, capita, meaning head.

                            I would suggest that you get yourself a good grounding in the case before making any wild assertions as to why these women were killed.

                            If after that you want to pursue your theory of weird black magic rituals, carry on, we can all do with a good laugh now and then!

                            Here’s a tip, if you want people to read what you have offered us it might be a good idea to try writing in English as that is the language most used on these boards.

                            Your line:
                            “cute post I'm gonna do you one better and not waist more than 5 minutes to respond or 40 something years of research. “
                            Is still baffling most of us!
                            Wow....

                            Here's a tip, if you want people to read what you have offererd us it might a good idea to try writing in English as that is the language most used on these boards.

                            Bob:

                            You must be the geniuse of this forum and i commend you on deciphering my thread... the whole near decapitation via by head or necks is impressive.

                            I am so ashamed of my writing skills now, that i decided to take your grammar 101 class; only after you solve the ripper murders.

                            Fortunately for me i don't have to worry about that, not in your lifetime.

                            This is what i mean about deflecting from the fact. Instead of writing about my thread you attack me personally over English grammar errors!!! I can't wait to read your past threads.

                            Five woman were murdered in a span of two months, three of them in the month of September, and two of them in one night. All were incapacitate either by garroting or strangulation before the fatal laceration to their carotid arteries and severe cut to their NECKS causing near decapitation.

                            At least three of the 5 woman were disemboweled with severe mutilation on the body's with missing organs uterus, kidney, heart...

                            Bob, your the resident genius here...let me ask you do we have a pattern here with these murders. These Horrific murders cannot be in your worthless expert opinion worthy of something as Diabolical as a satanic ritual, human offering, black magic whatever...

                            I don't have all the answers and i never said i did however, given the totality of these murders and the discovery, how their initials of their last name in order of the way they were killed rearranges in a pentagram to spell NECKS the primary means of their deaths is something that need to be investigated.

                            I don't care if no one agrees to this and i am not forcing the issue with anyone i thought it was a clever discovery and i wanted to share it to get people motivated.

                            If you can go back to 1888 or after and someone, anyone, discovered what i am sharing with you; don't you think the police would have said, hey, were is that cop wannabe D'onston who's very interested in these murders at; and didn't he brag about or practice black magic...lets question him again.

                            Bob, i expect my grammar correction soon... thats all your really good at Dan

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                            • #29
                              Look Daniel,
                              I admit we may have had some fun with you, but only because you are talking abject twaddle.

                              How dare you refer to Bob Hinton's opinion as 'worthless expert opinion' when he points out the idiocy of your entire contention.

                              Please, please do yourself a favour and go away and read Begg and Sugden's works before exposing your 'theory' to public ridicule.

                              Iam sure we only have your best interests at heart.

                              You are making yourself look more and more like an utter tit.

                              And this is the last time I will 'rise to your bait'.

                              doris
                              ..."(this is my literary discovery and is copyright protected)"...

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                              • #30
                                Hi Dan,



                                Five woman were murdered in a span of two months, three of them in the month of September
                                No.

                                All were incapacitate either by garroting or strangulation
                                Again, no.

                                before the fatal laceration to their carotid arteries and severe cut to their NECKS causing near decapitation.
                                Again, no. It doesn't apply to Stride.


                                I don't have all the answers
                                Right.
                                But you could have some if you study a bit before coming up with a theory.

                                Amitiés,
                                David

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