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  • babybird67
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    Originally posted by Cap'n Jack View Post
    and do you know what? His big secret is already revealed in press cuttings before his arrival.
    So calm down girl, rinse your hair green or summit.
    If this information is already in the public domain and therefore not a 'big secret', why have you spent half the thread egging him on to reveal his big secret?

    What a waste of energy if there is no 'secret' in the first place!
    Last edited by babybird67; 11-03-2009, 01:09 AM.

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by jdpegg View Post
    ps Ally, I would trust you with my secrets!
    It would be a sad world if we could not trust our Ally's



    (Caz - if you read this, that was a deliberate "grocers' apostrophe" I used there.)

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  • Jenni Shelden
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    ps Ally, I would trust you with my secrets!

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  • Jenni Shelden
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    I judge people in Ripperology all the time, in terms of their theories and ideas, based on whether I think what they are saying absolute bs based on the evidence thats out there logic and how they present said evidence.

    It doesnt matter how true what you are saying is, if you always come across as an arogant arsehole with no manners, frankly their are better things to do with ones time.

    It might be nice to imagine a field where everyone acted just like me and did 200xs the amount of the research i am interested in. But that wouldnt lead to anything. What makes the field work is that we can rely on each other to find various different useful items/ to have different but equally valid perspectives. Thats progress.

    I would think it always wise to tread carefully trusting people when there are such big egos around.

    Jenni

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  • Ally
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    Let this be a lesson: zip it til you print it. Except for me. You can tell me. I PROMISE not tell anyone. Really...ask anyone. Totally trustworthy.

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  • Cap'n Jack
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    Actually Ally, if you go over to the other side, you'll find a link that Sam has posted to the original John Gill thread, started by me in response to a question from Sam on a podcast, and then you will see the dialogue, newspaper clippings and everything else, and then you will see Silver arriving on the scene sometime after all that... and do you know what? His big secret is already revealed in press cuttings before his arrival.
    So calm down girl, rinse your hair green or summit.

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  • silverstealth
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    [QUOTE=Ally;103479]
    Originally posted by Cap'n Jack View Post

    Bullshit AP. I am fairly sure that whatever Silver told you was told in confidence and you have NOT kept that confidence. Going around saying Silver has a secret, silver has a secret is NOT keeping his trust and don't lie to me or to yourself by pretending that just because you haven't divulged details you haven't betrayed his trust. You flat out have and you know it.




    At least you know it's in your nature to be a lying scheming deceitful bastard who doesn't know the meaning of friendship or trust. Most people aren't that self aware.
    Ally, your understanding of the situation is truly magnificent...
    Last edited by silverstealth; 11-03-2009, 12:50 AM.

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  • Monty
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    Originally posted by Ally View Post
    It's everyone's job. Everyone judges everyone else's trustworthiness; you can't have the most basic of relationships without it, and it's pandering to fob it off by saying "oh that's not for me to judge". Because it is in fact for you to judge, it's for everyone to judge.
    Whoa there Ally,

    I think AP has enough with you on his case without me laying the boot in.

    I was being tactful...no, I wont explain it.

    Monty

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  • Nurse Sarah
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    Dear Ally and Archaic

    Should I ever be in a court of law, could you do me the honour of representing me? You have a fantastic way with words...

    Regards

    Sarah

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  • Ally
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    Originally posted by Monty View Post
    I thought it was your job Ally, along with the Grim Reaping

    Monty
    It's everyone's job. Everyone judges everyone else's trustworthiness; you can't have the most basic of relationships without it, and it's pandering to fob it off by saying "oh that's not for me to judge". Because it is in fact for you to judge, it's for everyone to judge.

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  • Ally
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    [QUOTE=Cap'n Jack;103475]
    I have not betrayed that trust, Ally, not one bit at all. But that trust does not imply that I cannot carry on with the work that I started with John Gill three years before this person ever contacted me... does it?
    Bullshit AP. I am fairly sure that whatever Silver told you was told in confidence and you have NOT kept that confidence. Going around saying Silver has a secret, silver has a secret is NOT keeping his trust and don't lie to me or to yourself by pretending that just because you haven't divulged details you haven't betrayed his trust. You flat out have and you know it.


    I saw a connection between the Gill murder and one of the Whitechapel Murders a long time before Silver arrived on scene, with his useful piece of information confirming my long held belief.
    And yes, I will push and push, it is in me raw nature to do so, and to the devil with consequence and reputation.
    At least you know it's in your nature to be a lying scheming deceitful bastard who doesn't know the meaning of friendship or trust. Most people aren't that self aware.

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  • Monty
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    I thought it was your job Ally, along with the Grim Reaping

    Monty

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  • Cap'n Jack
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    I have not betrayed that trust, Ally, not one bit at all. But that trust does not imply that I cannot carry on with the work that I started with John Gill three years before this person ever contacted me... does it?
    I saw a connection between the Gill murder and one of the Whitechapel Murders a long time before Silver arrived on scene, with his useful piece of information confirming my long held belief.
    And yes, I will push and push, it is in me raw nature to do so, and to the devil with consequence and reputation.

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  • Ally
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    Why isn't it for you to judge? Isn't everyone's trustworthiness for each individual person to judge?

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  • Monty
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    Ally makes an extremely valid point, not about APs trustworthiness (thats not for me to judge) I add.

    I know of a small collective of enthusiasts who share their finds amongst themselves. They do so simply because they trust each others opinion and honesty, negative or positive. They have little time for the base and childish debate that the Casebook sonetimes draws.

    Also, as Stewart pointed out to me some years back, there are still researchers out there who are not internet based or experienced. They conduct their own research and steer clear of all things cyber based.

    Are they to be pressganged also?

    Monty

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