Crippen to be Exhumed?

[anna]

I saw a programme on this a while back.
They had a group of lodgers in the house,and she was friendly with all of them,but took up with one in particular...and they used to make love while Crippen listened to them,while doing the chores his Mrs had told him to do,while she was busy.
I felt quite sorry for him whereas before the programme started I had him down as the baddie...he was henpecked and humiliated...If he did murder her,she deserved it...IMHO.

[Debra A]

Hi Debs,

I saw something on tv about Cora taking up with another man behind Crippen's back BEFORE he made any attempt at her life. Do you feel there's any truth in that?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Hi Tom,
Crippen was probably such a boring old fart she need some excitement.

[Tom_Wescott]

True. I just meant that it's natural people would hold Cora somewhat responsible for her fate if she were cheating on her husband, particularly in the era in which she lived.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Jenni Shelden]

Tom,

not disagreeing whatsoever, but didnt he run off with some other bird adter the murder. There's anotehr classic motive!

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[Tom_Wescott]

No, but that should take any 'astonishment' out of it 'being turned around on Cora'. It's a pretty classic motive, after all.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Jenni Shelden]

Hi Tom,

so if a woman cheated on her husband, that excuses him killing her???

[Tom_Wescott]

Hi Debs,

I saw something on tv about Cora taking up with another man behind Crippen's back BEFORE he made any attempt at her life. Do you feel there's any truth in that?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Debra A]

Cora, considering she was the victim, has had a very bad sexist press.

Hi Miss Marple,
I also find it astonishing that things have been turned around on Cora...the victim.
Several of her friends spoke very highly of her at the trial, and seemingly didn't think much of Crippen. One of her friends who gave evidence at the trial also wrote a piece on the case in the book 'survivor's tales' mentioning what a warm, friendly and vivacious woman she was, and the fact that Crippen might have tried to poison Cora about 2 weeks previous to her death.

Even the fact that Cora did work for the Womens Musc Hall Guild has been used against her, insinuating the work was just to be in close contact with as many men as possible! When in fact it was a charitable organisation for the benefit of women and children only, and Cora's work there was voluntary.

[tji]

Hi all

Yes silverstealth, if I remember correctly the clothing was a pair of Crippen's pyjamas that the salesman of the store they had been purchased from stated they had been a new line brought in after the date that the Crippens had moved into the house.

tj

[silverstealth]

(or maybe it was "already there" when he moved in)

Thanks, Archaic

As I remember there was a piece of clothing found with the body that could have only been buried during his occupation.

[miss marple]

unenglish

What you all getting into a state over unenglish for? I used the word so I will explain the context.
Cora, considering she was the victim, has had a very bad sexist press. She was regarded as loud, domineering, and a show off. Her attempts to find fame on the music hall was treated as a joke. She was brash.[ Brashness the was seen as an american quality at a time when the english still thought of themselves as superior to those from other countries]
I suppose you will all winge about the word brash now,[ lets give up all adjectives apart from good and bad ]
Brash was regarded as an unenglish quality particually among lower middle class wives of the time who were expected to be quiet,obedient and unobtrusive, not to push yourself into the limelight or make a public show of yourself.
Crippen was regarded as a poor henpecked husband, dominated by his wife. He was called the 'nice murderer' The love story of Crippen and Ethel intrigued the public.
Neither of these perceptions is exactly true.
Crippen did protect Ethel from involvment in the case. He had a devious and secretive mind.He was very adept at weaving the tissues of lies after the murder, and presenting a harmless persona
Cora's socialising made her a lot of friends, who were suspicious of Crippen after her disappearence
Miss Marple

[c.d.]

Hi Carol,

If the English are sexually repressed, where does the overpopulation come from?

c.d.

[Carol]

"Un-English", eh?

Well, she certainly wasn't English but there is nothing about her character that suggests she behaved in a way alien to many English women of the same class and background.

I'm sorry but this "un-English" thing bugs me. It may have been something that the upper classes considered but for the every-wo/man it didn't apply.
Did the victims of the Ripper behave in an "Un-English" way?

Hi Triplesod!
I have lived abroad for more years than I care to remember (namely in Sweden) and I still get surprised at the wider world's idea of what an English person is like. We are, apparently, unable and unwilling to show what we really feel, unwilling to communicate with others, prepare the most unedible food, have a terrible taste in home decorating and are sexually repressed. Just for starters!
Oh yes, and we are very overcrowded populationwise - this last always said as if it was my own fault!
Carol

[Triplesod]

"Un-English", eh?

Well, she certainly wasn't English but there is nothing about her character that suggests she behaved in a way alien to many English women of the same class and background.

I'm sorry but this "un-English" thing bugs me. It may have been something that the upper classes considered but for the every-wo/man it didn't apply.
Did the victims of the Ripper behave in an "Un-English" way?

[Debra A]

Excellent post Miss Marple.