Crippen to be Exhumed?

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  • jmenges
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    Originally posted by c.d. View Post
    Wasn't Crippen's wife having an affair? I am wondering if the body could have been that of her lover and then he went on to kill his wife.

    c.d.
    The body of her lover strolled into the courtroom and testified at his trial.

    JM

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  • Archaic
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    Can anyone tell me if Mr. Di Stefano has any sort of theory as to what became of Cora Crippen if that wasn't her body that they found?

    And does he think that Dr Crippen just happened to have ANOTHER dead body lying around his basement??

    (or maybe it was "already there" when he moved in)

    Thanks, Archaic

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  • c.d.
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    Wasn't Crippen's wife having an affair? I am wondering if the body could have been that of her lover and then he went on to kill his wife.

    c.d.

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  • jmenges
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    From my questioning of Dr. Foran, head of the MSU DNA team, on October 30th, 2007:

    Q: I obtained from the website of the Italian law firm
    www.studiolegaleinternazionale.com a chart that details Cora Crippen's
    family tree. The only problem is that the graphic is wholly illegible
    due to its size and the names and dates of the relatives are not able
    to be read. Could you possibly provide me with a decent quality chart
    of her family tree so I have a better understanding of Cora's siblings
    and half-siblings and their children? If you do not have a genealogy
    chart that reflects your groups research, hopefully you could inform
    me as to where I can find such a chart.


    A: I have specifically and very plainly requested that any mention or inclusion of my name, my laboratory, or my University (Michigan State University, and their misspelling of it) be wholly omitted from that document, in that I in no way support or condone their efforts. I have made this very plain to Mr. Trestrail, and he has claimed to have made it plain to Mr. Di Stefano. I believe Ms. Wills also requested that her name be removed, but she can address that.
    Certainly I did not in any manner give permission to be associated with Mr. Di Stefano, his website, or his scheme. The number of errors in that application, from the misnamed university to Mr. Trestrail's title, show what sloppy work Mr. Di Stefano conducts. Once again, neither I, my laboratory, my Departments, nor Michigan State University in any way support Mr. Di Stefano's efforts, and again request that mention of any of these, as well as any 'team' support for his efforts, through which I and the above are directly or indirectly implied, be fully removed from this and all further documents, releases, or statements.


    JM

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  • Celesta
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    I'm surprised it's gotten this far since we were discussing this just a few months ago. If the family wants him moved, then he should be moved.

    I'm much more interested in what was found in that basement.

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  • jmenges
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    Note that Giovanni Di Stefano is the same attorney that the Michigan State University team wanted nothing to do with back in 2007, and in fact insisted that Stefano remove all reference to the DNA research from his initial court filings. They said that they wanted no part in the efforts to pardon Crippen or exhume Crippen's remains.

    But then came the cameras.

    JM

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  • Jeff Leahy
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    Yep , I've caught this theory before, and it still rather beggers the question "then whose body is it?"

    What are the odds of one just happening to be there? by chance?

    Sounds like someone's got something wrong somewhere, or i'm a monkeys uncle.

    Pirate

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  • halomanuk
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    Well at least this SHOULD finally put an end to it and avoid all the speculation,although i would be very surprised if he was innocent.
    Very.

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  • George Hutchinson
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    No relation, Mike?

    Y'know, I LIKE Crippen (in a way) but I absolutely cannot see this innocence business. I'm about 99% sure it's flawed forensics. Still, if the family want to bury the body I'm all for that. Is there going to be anything much of him to rebury, though?

    PHILIP

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  • Mike Covell
    started a topic Crippen to be Exhumed?

    Crippen to be Exhumed?

    11:30pm UK, Monday June 01, 2009
    Martin Brunt, crime correspondent
    Notorious murderer Dr Crippen could soon be exhumed from his prison grave as lawyers seek to prove his innocence with DNA evidence.

    Efforts to dig up his remains have moved a step closer after prison authorities gave his family the green light for re-burial.
    But they have been told they must first get permission from the relatives of three other killers whose bodies lie in unconsecrated graves next to his at Pentonville jail in London.
    Now the Crippen lawyer Giovanni Di Stefano is appealing for help in tracing the other families.
    And he says he is determined to get a pardon for the notorious poisoner thanks to DNA evidence from the murder scene.
    Mr Di Stefano wants to hear from relatives of two murderers hanged in 1910; George Perry, 27 and Andrew Woolf, 58.
    Perry was executed for killing his girlfriend Annie Covell while Woolf was convicted of murdering a man called Andrew Simon.
    Hawley Crippen, an American physician, was hanged the same year for the murder of his wife Cora, a music hall singer who had a string of lovers.
    He told friends his wife had gone to live in California, where she had died and been cremated.
    But a mutilated body was discovered buried beneath the cellar of the couple's North London home.
    At Crippen's Old Bailey trial prosecutors outlined the gruesome manner in which the body had been disposed of.
    They said Cora's bones and limbs were professionally removed and burned in the kitchen stove.
    Her organs were dissolved in acid in the bathtub, and her head was placed in a handbag and thrown overboard during a day trip to Dieppe, France.
    Crippen was arrested with his new girlfriend Ethel Le Neve as they fled aboard a ship to Canada.
    However forensic scientists in the United States have cast doubt on Crippen's guilt.
    They claim to have established through DNA that the body in the cellar was in fact that of a man.
    At the trial the pathologist Sir Bernard Spilsbury could not identify the remains or even discern whether they were male or female.
    Mr Di Stefano said: "Dr Crippen is clearly innocent of his wife's murder. It is the most serious miscarriage of justice in a 100 years."
    A cousin of Crippen plans to rebury the body in his native Michigan.

    Source: Sky News
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