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[Steadmund Brand]

Bill Nelson was almost my pick for guitar!!!! I am a HUGE FAN.. he is one of my favorites of all time...sad you never hear his name mentioned among the greats.. especially in the states.. nobody seems to know him

Steadmund Brand

[Robert]

He's still going, Stead.

Wonderful performance here :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYHZVDUr9x4

[Steadmund Brand]

Oh I know... I keep up to date (as much as I can) I own over 75 of his albums (Be-Bop Deluxe, Red Noise, Channel Light Vessel and of course Solo albums) He is the one performer I regret I never got to see live.....or meet, and he doesn't seem to want to come to the States and play ( almost did a few years ago.. I had my trip booked and everything.. but then it was cancelled)....thanks for the link.....he really needs to be more appreciated than he is!!!!!!


Steadmund Brand

[Robert]

Absolutely!

[sdreid]

If there was a time machine and we could have them all in their prime; My All Time Greatest Rock And Roll Band:

1-Drums-John Bonham(Led Zeppelin)
2-Keyboards-Jerry Lee Lewis
3-Bass-Jack Bruce(Cream)
4-Guitar-Pete Townshend(The Who)
5-Vocals-Richard Ashcroft(The Verve)

I think all of these are fairly well known with the possible exception of Ashcroft so here you go(As usual, full screen, full volume and headphones recommended!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq1OH16z_Cc

[GUT]

How about

Drums Ringi Starr
Guitar John Lennon and George Harrison
Bass Paul McCartney

Hey it worked last time.

[Pcdunn]

Yeah, but two of those fellows are in Rock 'n' Roll Heaven now, so...

[GUT]

Yeah, but two of those fellows are in Rock 'n' Roll Heaven now, so...

Now if we limit it to R&R heaven members

Guitars: John and George
Drums: Keith Moon
Bass: Jack Bruce
Keyboards: Billy Preston

[Robert]

The thing about supergroups is that such groups might not work. They might not blend musically. And then there's the ego problem. Even with the Beatles, who were more like a family than a band, you started to have resentments - towards the end, George was unhappy that his songs weren't picked often enough. Even John was unhappy that his songs weren't picked often enough. Ringo may not have been a Bonham or Moon but his personality helped keep them together. So it's all pretty complex.

[GUT]

The thing about supergroups is that such groups might not work. They might not blend musically. And then there's the ego problem. Even with the Beatles, who were more like a family than a band, you started to have resentments - towards the end, George was unhappy that his songs weren't picked often enough. Even John was unhappy that his songs weren't picked often enough. Ringo may not have been a Bonham or Moon but his personality helped keep them together. So it's all pretty complex.

So true.

Cream never reached the heights that you would expect, given the members. In my humble opinion.

The other thing that really worked for the Beatles was the song writing talent, I suspect John and Paul would have risen to the top on that count alone, even if they weren't part of that band.

Ringo is in my opinion a much underrated drummer, the simple fact was that he could beat out the same (somewhat basic a times) rhythm time and time again helping George take separate takes and meld them into one song.

[GUT]

The thing about supergroups is that such groups might not work. They might not blend musically. And then there's the ego problem. Even with the Beatles, who were more like a family than a band, you started to have resentments - towards the end, George was unhappy that his songs weren't picked often enough. Even John was unhappy that his songs weren't picked often enough. Ringo may not have been a Bonham or Moon but his personality helped keep them together. So it's all pretty complex.

So true.

Cream never reached the heights that you would expect, given the members. In my humble opinion.

The other thing that really worked for the Beatles was the song writing talent, I suspect John and Paul would have risen to the top on that count alone, even if they weren't part of that band.

Ringo is in my opinion a much underrated drummer, the simple fact was that he could beat out the same (somewhat basic a times) rhythm time and time again helping George take separate takes and meld them into one song.

Paul's ego caused problems.

[Robert]

Yes, Ringo seemed to have the least ego. I think Paul was the one who most liked being in the Beatles, and felt obliged to gee up the others to keep the fairytale going. But there's a fine line between that and bossiness.

[Steadmund Brand]

All Paul wanted to do was be in a rock-n-roll band...and play live and have fun....John didn't want to play live... George was (understandably) pissed about not getting more songs on the albums ( In my opinion George's solo career is the best.. he really turned into a great songwriter... and as much as I LOVE the Beatles ( my cats name is Sgt. Pepper after all!!!) he needed to get away from them to grow as a songwriter and musician) and Ringo... oh dear Ringo...as GUT said a VERY underrated drummer, and just seems to be an all-around good guy.. let's face it.. he is the only one who appeared on the other three's solo projects...I mean, he even worked with George while in the middle of a lawsuit with him!!!!

Cream....well, let's face it.... Jack Bruce WAS Cream.... and when you have Eric Clapton in a band.. it's hard for him not to be THE member... plus drugs (hard drugs) were a factor in their demise... same as with Blind Faith... should have lasted more than 1 album... but drugs, more than egos, really hurt them.

there have been "supergroups" that worked.. some so well people forget they were formed as "Supergroups".. such as Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young (from The Byrds, Buffalo Springfield and the Hollies) or Grand Funk Railroad ( from Terry Knight and the Pack and Questions Mark and the Mysterians), or Emerson , Lake and Palmer ( from The Nice and King Crimson), Bad Company ( from Free, Mott The Hoople and King Crimson) even a band like Asia ( from Yes, King Crimson and Uriah Heep)...and there are some that are just for fun.... A.K.A The Traveling Wilburys (George Harrison, Bob Dylan, Tom Petty, Jeff Lynn and the great Roy Orbison) or the Highwaymen (Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson and Kris Kristofferson)....but too many times "Supergroups" are formed BECAUSE of ego.. and that NEVER works...

I love this dream historical Supergroup thread... I hope folks add more!!!

Steadmund Brand

[sdreid]

Yes, sometimes these groups turn out to be less than the sum of their parts, as with Van Halen and Sammy Hagar, but this is all fantasy/ conjecture after all.

[Robert]

I suspect that one reason for George being fed up was that he occasionally saw John or Paul getting away with rather average songs, e.g. I've Just Seen A Face or Tell Me Why. I can't believe that George had nothing ready that was better than these.