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  • John Wheat
    Assistant Commissioner
    • Jul 2008
    • 3488

    #646
    Those proclaiming that the Jack the Ripper is finally solved when they are referring to a crap suspect that has very little going for them. And that everyone should just believe the b.s. there peddling. It's happened with Lechmere, Kosminski, Sickert and now Thompson. These people of course disregard more plausible suspects that are atleast violent murderers.

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    • Herlock Sholmes
      Commissioner
      • May 2017
      • 22966

      #647
      Here, here.
      Herlock Sholmes

      ”I don’t know who Jack the Ripper was…and neither do you.”

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      • c.d.
        Commissioner
        • Feb 2008
        • 6668

        #648
        The Irritations thread is a fun thread for complaining about...well...life's Irritations. Let's not turn it into a pissing thread for complaining about fellow posters. I don't think that is a road we want to start down.

        c.d.

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        • John Wheat
          Assistant Commissioner
          • Jul 2008
          • 3488

          #649
          Originally posted by c.d. View Post
          The Irritations thread is a fun thread for complaining about...well...life's Irritations. Let's not turn it into a pissing thread for complaining about fellow posters. I don't think that is a road we want to start down.

          c.d.
          Are you saying that the quests to frame various people for the Ripper crimes isn't irritating? I would say it's both irritating and in bad taste.

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          • c.d.
            Commissioner
            • Feb 2008
            • 6668

            #650
            Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

            Are you saying that the quests to frame various people for the Ripper crimes isn't irritating? I would say it's both irritating and in bad taste.
            Yes, it is irritating but it comes with being on these boards. I am saying this is not the place for it. Richard is entitled to support a particular candidate and you are free to disagree or ignore him. Surely you want to shout your support for Bury from the rooftop. Are you denying that right to others? And please don't respond by saying well Bury is a legitimate suspect and Thompson is not. That is not how it works.

            And keep in mind that personal attacks on posters can get you in trouble.

            Again, let's just keep this non-Ripper related because nothing good in going to come of it.

            c.d.

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            • FISHY1118
              Assistant Commissioner
              • May 2019
              • 3717

              #651
              Originally posted by c.d. View Post

              Yes, it is irritating but it comes with being on these boards. I am saying this is not the place for it. Richard is entitled to support a particular candidate and you are free to disagree or ignore him. Surely you want to shout your support for Bury from the rooftop. Are you denying that right to others? And please don't respond by saying well Bury is a legitimate suspect and Thompson is not. That is not how it works.

              And keep in mind that personal attacks on posters can get you in trouble.

              Again, let's just keep this non-Ripper related because nothing good in going to come of it.

              c.d.
              Well Said . #646 is just Bitterness
              'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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              • Pcdunn
                Superintendent
                • Dec 2014
                • 2332

                #652
                Originally posted by c.d. View Post
                When you go for an eye exam and they switch lenses back and forth asking you each time which is better. Well sometimes they seem almost exactly the same to me but telling them that seems to get them upset. I mean it's not like I am trying to be difficult.

                c.d.
                Agreed. At my last eye exam, the man began switching them faster and even said he was doing this because I wasn't answering his question. Sigh... old eyes take a little longer to focus, doctor!
                Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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                Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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                • John Wheat
                  Assistant Commissioner
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3488

                  #653
                  Originally posted by c.d. View Post

                  Yes, it is irritating but it comes with being on these boards. I am saying this is not the place for it. Richard is entitled to support a particular candidate and you are free to disagree or ignore him. Surely you want to shout your support for Bury from the rooftop. Are you denying that right to others? And please don't respond by saying well Bury is a legitimate suspect and Thompson is not. That is not how it works.

                  And keep in mind that personal attacks on posters can get you in trouble.

                  Again, let's just keep this non-Ripper related because nothing good in going to come of it.

                  c.d.
                  Fair points. However I wasn't singling anyone out. Also I just find the attitude by some of the quest to frame a suspect brigade off.

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                  • John Wheat
                    Assistant Commissioner
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 3488

                    #654
                    Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

                    Well Said . #646 is just Bitterness
                    Bitterness at what?

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                    • FISHY1118
                      Assistant Commissioner
                      • May 2019
                      • 3717

                      #655
                      Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

                      Bitterness at what?
                      I can understand your stance on Maybrick as a ''Crap'' suspect , that which we have agreed on in the past . But to lump Thompson in that very same catagory after what can only be described as a mountain of Impressive and as yet shown to be dismissive Evidence ,to me smacks of Bitterness towards the poster and his chosen suspect Imo .
                      'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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                      • GBinOz
                        Assistant Commissioner
                        • Jun 2021
                        • 3167

                        #656
                        Originally posted by Pcdunn View Post

                        Agreed. At my last eye exam, the man began switching them faster and even said he was doing this because I wasn't answering his question. Sigh... old eyes take a little longer to focus, doctor!
                        I can empathise. I had a period of dry eye which resulted in every switch resulting in a blurry unreadable chart. His question was - but which is less blurry and unreadable....and here's your bill, I hope you can read it. (that last bit might be a slight exaggeration}.
                        No experience of the failure of his policy could shake his belief in its essential excellence - The March of Folly by Barbara Tuchman

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                        • John Wheat
                          Assistant Commissioner
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 3488

                          #657
                          Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

                          I can understand your stance on Maybrick as a ''Crap'' suspect , that which we have agreed on in the past . But to lump Thompson in that very same catagory after what can only be described as a mountain of Impressive and as yet shown to be dismissive Evidence ,to me smacks of Bitterness towards the poster and his chosen suspect Imo .
                          If Thompson was shown to be a viable suspect then I would be only too happy to add him to a small list of viable suspects. However there isn't the evidence to put him in that category. And there have been outlandish claims about Thompson such as it has been scientifically proven he was Jack the Ripper. This is not true at all. None of the so called evidence presented is scientific. So what is there for me to be bitter at?

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                          • The Rookie Detective
                            Superintendent
                            • Apr 2019
                            • 2030

                            #658
                            Thompson lacked the physical strength and prowess to have the capability to almost sever Stride's head with one cut.
                            He wouldn't have been physically able to dominate in the manner in which the Ripper did.

                            However, he did have the anatomical knowledge, surgical skill and an understanding of a relatively new surgical technique for heart extraction that was demonstrated by the Ripper.

                            When we combine this with Thompson's macarbe and rather disturbing writings, and nomadic transient existence, this automatically places Thompson above the likes of Lechmere, Kosminski, Druitt and Maybrick.


                            The victims are the literal body of evidence that we need to decipher what kind of man the Ripper was, and what he was practically capable of with his knife.


                            So while it might be irritating, Thompson can't be ignored on the basis that it's unpopular and rocks the Ripperology boat.

                            It's a boat that's meant to be rocked after all.


                            Ripperology isn't a luxury river cruise, it's a torrid and windswept channel crossing.

                            And there's nothing wrong with that.
                            "Great minds, don't think alike"

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