Language/Accents

[Al Bundy's Eyes]

I think every generation bemoans the next one's use of language.

[Iconoclast]

I can’t stand “If that makes sense” when whatever was said could not possibly have been misunderstood.

If that makes sense …

[Herlock Sholmes]

What about "teeny tiny"?
Why isn't just "tiny" good enough?

Yes, that’s another one.

And…….people who say “it’s my most favourite one.”

Or “they were my most happiest memories.”

[Herlock Sholmes]

I think every generation bemoans the next one's use of language.

Probably right Al.

[Herlock Sholmes]

And don’t get me started on my other bugbear Bloody handwriting! I used to interview people and the ones that were around 18 or so had the handwriting of an 8 year old!

[Fleetwood Mac]

I used to drink with a guy who came from the same area as John Humble (Wearside Jack) His voice was very similar in tone too. We used to annoy him by saying “go on Tom, say it.” Eventually, and just to shut us up, he’d say “I’m Jack. I see you are still having no luck catching me.” It was pretty eerie.

The whole thing was quite sad.

The police were desperate for a lead and grabbed at the tapes even though at least one survivor stated definitely a Yorkshire accent. I believe some of those police officers never recovered in terms of health.

Meanwhile, more women were murdered. Could they have been prevented had they focused on Yorkshire? Possibly, although they caught him out of luck more than anything else.

How many times had Sutcliffe been interviewed? A good number but the dots weren't connected due to being overwhelmed with paperwork and information.

As I say, sad for all concerned, especially those women who lost their lives and the survivors who were never the same again.

[Fleetwood Mac]

I think it would be sad if accents completely died out but I’m wondering if this might eventually happen?

I agree in that I'd like to see these weird and wonderful accents and dialect preserved.

The accents that could reasonably die out are those closest to the capital city as they're more subject to outside influences.

I've noticed change in my lifetime since the mines closed, it's meant that there's a lot less of what's termed 'pitmatic' dialect.

Much of the dialect has survived but some of it hasn't. For example, the Durham fella in that link I provided used 'frae' for from. That definitely hasn't survived, I've never heard anyone 'round these parts use 'frae'.

By the way, a horse is a 'hoss' 'round here also, and a house is a 'hus'.

[Herlock Sholmes]

The whole thing was quite sad.

The police were desperate for a lead and grabbed at the tapes even though at least one survivor stated definitely a Yorkshire accent. I believe some of those police officers never recovered in terms of health.

Meanwhile, more women were murdered. Could they have been prevented had they focused on Yorkshire? Possibly, although they caught him out of luck more than anything else.

How many times had Sutcliffe been interviewed? A good number but the dots weren't connected due to being overwhelmed with paperwork and information.

As I say, sad for all concerned, especially those women who lost their lives and the survivors who were never the same again.

If memory serves I think that Sutcliffe was interviewed around 9 times! Oldfield was absolutely convinced that the guy was from the north east. There was one young girl, I can’t recall her name, who was attacked in a country lane by a guy with a hammer. They didn’t believe it was the YR because she’d fallen into conversation with him and the guy had a Yorkshire accent. She later identified him as Sutcliffe though.

As you said, really sad to think of the lives that might have been saved.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I agree in that I'd like to see these weird and wonderful accents and dialect preserved.

The accents that could reasonably die out are those closest to the capital city as they're more subject to outside influences.

I've noticed change in my lifetime since the mines closed, it's meant that there's a lot less of what's termed 'pitmatic' dialect.

Much of the dialect has survived but some of it hasn't. For example, the Durham fella in that link I provided used 'frae' for from. That definitely hasn't survived, I've never heard anyone 'round these parts use 'frae'.

By the way, a horse is a 'hoss' 'round here also, and a house is a 'hus'.

I love accents. I’d be sad if they did die out in favour of something generic.

I think ‘frae’ is also something that’s heard in Scotland. My Nan didn’t use it but her accent had lessened but I’ve heard it used by some. It’s interest how accents become ‘similar’ in regions of the country. I’d say that there are (to me at least) similarities between Bristol, Somerset, Cornwall and Devon. Then the midlands area has similarities. Then Lancashire/Yorkshire. Then the North East and Scotland perhaps. Then we get “hoss” used in locations 200 miles apart. Then you get the industry-specific language that you mention. Where I’m from it would be foundry based although there were pits. Nowhere near as many as up north though.

[Abby Normal]

here in the states theres about half a dozen or so distinct accents.
The Northern accent. Think tje movie Fargo or the dudes from the sctv comedy sketch Great white north. lots of ya,s and the long o super pronounced. With the chicago sub accent...Da Bears (with a very short curt s, not the typical z sound for the plural s).
The Boston accent.. pak ya ca for park your car.
The Brookyn/ NYC accent. think of any mob movie.
The beloved Baltimoron accent... Dyowny Oshun, hon. for at the beach lol.
Of course the southern accent, aka the southern drawl. imho the cutest of all the accents, especially the georgia accent. If youve never heard a cute blond southern girl talking it will melt your heart! the beach boys were correct!
amd the totally bizarro New Orleans Nawlins accent. its unlike anything. spoken on the planet. i think its a weird mix of southern, creole and cajun. totally bizarre and one of the hardest to understand. google a clip of dr john talking and his even isnt that bad as the usual.

amd also strangely enough the entire mid atlantic across the midwest into california, there really is no huge discernable difference in accents.

i may have left out a couple minor accents, but if i have my fellow patriots please let me know!

[Ms Diddles]

here in the states theres about half a dozen or so distinct accents.
The Northern accent. Think tje movie Fargo or the dudes from the sctv comedy sketch Great white north. lots of ya,s and the long o super pronounced. With the chicago sub accent...Da Bears (with a very short curt s, not the typical z sound for the plural s).
The Boston accent.. pak ya ca for park your car.
The Brookyn/ NYC accent. think of any mob movie.
The beloved Baltimoron accent... Dyowny Oshun, hon. for at the beach lol.
Of course the southern accent, aka the southern drawl. imho the cutest of all the accents, especially the georgia accent. If youve never heard a cute blond southern girl talking it will melt your heart! the beach boys were correct!
amd the totally bizarro New Orleans Nawlins accent. its unlike anything. spoken on the planet. i think its a weird mix of southern, creole and cajun. totally bizarre and one of the hardest to understand. google a clip of dr john talking and his even isnt that bad as the usual.

amd also strangely enough the entire mid atlantic across the midwest into california, there really is no huge discernable difference in accents.

i may have left out a couple minor accents, but if i have my fellow patriots please let me know!

Thanks Abby!

That's interesting.

I loved the accents in Fargo.

I think that the northern one is my favourite, but the NYC one always sounds really cool to my British ears too.

[Herlock Sholmes]

here in the states theres about half a dozen or so distinct accents.
The Northern accent. Think tje movie Fargo or the dudes from the sctv comedy sketch Great white north. lots of ya,s and the long o super pronounced. With the chicago sub accent...Da Bears (with a very short curt s, not the typical z sound for the plural s).
The Boston accent.. pak ya ca for park your car.
The Brookyn/ NYC accent. think of any mob movie.
The beloved Baltimoron accent... Dyowny Oshun, hon. for at the beach lol.
Of course the southern accent, aka the southern drawl. imho the cutest of all the accents, especially the georgia accent. If youve never heard a cute blond southern girl talking it will melt your heart! the beach boys were correct!
amd the totally bizarro New Orleans Nawlins accent. its unlike anything. spoken on the planet. i think its a weird mix of southern, creole and cajun. totally bizarre and one of the hardest to understand. google a clip of dr john talking and his even isnt that bad as the usual.

amd also strangely enough the entire mid atlantic across the midwest into california, there really is no huge discernable difference in accents.

i may have left out a couple minor accents, but if i have my fellow patriots please let me know!

TV and movies are the way that we mostly hear American accents. I have a friend who was born in New York so I can identify his accent by hearing bits of Columbo or Frank Sinatra and I once met an American in London who asked how I knew that he was from Boston. He got it when I asked him to say “Ask not what your country can do for you.” So those to, plus the generic ‘southern’ accent is about all that I can recognise. The phrase ‘y’all,’ is familiar. I think that I’ve heard Ally use it but I don’t know where she’s from.

[Ms Diddles]

Sound recordings of British accents and dialects | The British Library (bl.uk)

Weird and wonderful accents of Britain.

Some of these are barely intelligible.

Dorset, Norfolk and Durham are farmers and so probably not subject to outside influences. I know the Durham clip is of a fella from the Wear Valley who probably lived in the hills all of his life.

The Yorkshire accent and dialect at the end is a beauty.

These are great FM!

Thanks for posting.

Agree, the Yorkshire one at the end is a belter!

It's pretty unusual though, so I guess it is perhaps representative of a bygone era.

When I was growing up in the area, my friends and family sounded more like the given example of the Hull accent (although geographically we were closer to York than Hull).

The Shetland one is a cracker too!

[Ms Diddles]

Yes, that’s another one.

And…….people who say “it’s my most favourite one.”

Or “they were my most happiest memories.”

I also grind my teeth at the overuse / use out of context of the word "literally".

"I literally died!!!!"

No you didn't! You're standing in front of me, perfectly alive talking this sh!t!!

See also stupid people who use "pacifically" when they mean "specifically ".

That one bugs me too!

[Ms Diddles]

And don’t get me started on my other bugbear Bloody handwriting! I used to interview people and the ones that were around 18 or so had the handwriting of an 8 year old!

They will likely go on to make excellent doctors then!

Terrible handwriting appears to be a prerequisite!