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so in uk pissed off means angry but pissed means drunk???"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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Yes. The wonders of the English language. Names are a great source of confusion too. Check these out.Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
so in uk pissed off means angry but pissed means drunk???
Cholmondeley is pronounced Chumley.
Featherstonhaugh is pronounced Fanshaw.
Marjoribanks is pronounced Marchbanks.
Brougham is pronounced Broom.
Beauchamp is pronounced Beecham.
Then there was George Leveson-Gower, his surname was pronounced Lewson Gore.
It reminds me of an old Monty Python sketch Abby. I bloke said that he was called Mr Luxury Yatcht but it was actually pronounced Throatwobbler Mangrove. Sums up the English language really. It’s perhaps surprising that we managed to build an empire with all the confusion.
Herlock Sholmes
”I don’t know who Jack the Ripper was…and neither do you.”
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haha. i was pronouncing the thames with the "th" sound and long a when we got to london. you know, how it looks.Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
Yes. The wonders of the English language. Names are a great source of confusion too. Check these out.
Cholmondeley is pronounced Chumley.
Featherstonhaugh is pronounced Fanshaw.
Marjoribanks is pronounced Marchbanks.
Brougham is pronounced Broom.
Beauchamp is pronounced Beecham.
Then there was George Leveson-Gower, his surname was pronounced Lewson Gore.
It reminds me of an old Monty Python sketch Abby. I bloke said that he was called Mr Luxury Yatcht but it was actually pronounced Throatwobbler Mangrove. Sums up the English language really. It’s perhaps surprising that we managed to build an empire with all the confusion.
me: wheres the Thames river from here.
local: never heard of it.
me: youve never heard of the river that this city is on??
local: You mean Tims?
me: whos Tim?
local: Tims, its pronounced Tims.
me: no kidding, i always thought it was pronounced the way its spelled. thanks!
(pub laughs)
"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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I recently saw an episode of "Sister Boniface's Mysteries" in which an old chap in coveralls, who was apparently the gardener, offered up a witness account in an unintelligble accent. A young policewoman who was native to the area was required to translate for him.Originally posted by Fleetwood Mac View PostSound recordings of British accents and dialects | The British Library (bl.uk)
Weird and wonderful accents of Britain.
Some of these are barely intelligible.
Dorset, Norfolk and Durham are farmers and so probably not subject to outside influences. I know the Durham clip is of a fella from the Wear Valley who probably lived in the hills all of his life.
The Yorkshire accent and dialect at the end is a beauty.
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The American athlete's version of this is to add "you know" between every few words of their response to an interviewer.Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
Worse, I think, is what I call the "trailing so", beloved of sportsmen/women being interviewed after the end of a game/event. "I thought the boys did a really good job out there today, so..." or "I've been working on my technique for months I'm pleased with the result, so..."Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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African-Americans in some areas use "axe" for "ask" or so it sounds.Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
aks instead of ask lol.
I've heard that Lizzie Borden, long after her celebrated trial and acquittal, opened her door to children selling something, and responded "Let me go axe my sister about it."
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Count me in.Originally posted by Fleetwood Mac View Post
'See, you have these Viking connections down in Yorkshire. Place names ending in 'by' or 'thorpe'. Loads of 'em in Yorkshire but there aren't many up here in Durham and the ones that are, are just over the River Tees into the far south of Durham where the Vikings crept over the water a bit.
But, words were borrowed from other counties from time to time. In Durham, we say 'lop' for flea, which is derived from the Viking word 'loppe'. That was borrowed, or stolen depending upon point of view, from Yorkshire.
And, there are a lot of old sayings that are losing their impetus. When someone was boozed up to the eyeballs my grandma would say: "he's away with the show-folk". I've no idea who the 'show-folk' were.
As for margaritas and marauding, I've no idea what a margarita is but in this part of the country we can offer you a light ale, pie and peas and a side order of pickled eggs!
Apart from those pickled eggs.....!
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I'm a Brit and I would probably have ballsed up the pronunciation of Featherstonhaugh and Marjoribanks if I'm honest.Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
Yes. The wonders of the English language. Names are a great source of confusion too. Check these out.
Cholmondeley is pronounced Chumley.
Featherstonhaugh is pronounced Fanshaw.
Marjoribanks is pronounced Marchbanks.
Brougham is pronounced Broom.
Beauchamp is pronounced Beecham.
Then there was George Leveson-Gower, his surname was pronounced Lewson Gore.
It reminds me of an old Monty Python sketch Abby. I bloke said that he was called Mr Luxury Yatcht but it was actually pronounced Throatwobbler Mangrove. Sums up the English language really. It’s perhaps surprising that we managed to build an empire with all the confusion.
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Once down south I asked in a supermarket if they sold peas puddin'. Was shown to the desserts section. I had no idea it's just a northern thing.Originally posted by Fleetwood Mac View Post
As for margaritas and marauding, I've no idea what a margarita is but in this part of the country we can offer you a light ale, pie and peas and a side order of pickled eggs!
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The old American term, maybe?-- was "pease porridge" and meant what I knew as split pea soup. Still one of my comfort foods!Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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Peas puddin' is something altogether thicker, even solid. It isn't green, more of an off green yellowy colour. Usually served in a large flat bun known as a stottie, but any nice soft white roll will do. Always with just butter and ham. I'm sure people do other fillings but I've seen anything other than ham.Originally posted by Pcdunn View PostThe old American term, maybe?-- was "pease porridge" and meant what I knew as split pea soup. Still one of my comfort foods!
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Pease pudding is still very popular 'round these parts, usually eaten with ham in a sandwich. I think its origins are in County Durham. I'm not so sure it is a northern thing, I lived in Lancashire for a while and couldn't find pease pudding for love nor money. It's more a Durham and Northumberland thing, but more Durham I reckon.Originally posted by Aethelwulf View Post
Once down south I asked in a supermarket if they sold peas puddin'. Was shown to the desserts section. I had no idea it's just a northern thing.
Also, 'panackelty', local dish in County Durham, lush piece of casserole food. The Northumberland version is 'pan haggerty', but those heathens put cheese in it.
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Thinking about it I don't thing i've seen it any further south than Darlo, not even in the well known chain that ryhmes with eggs, who do serve it further north. I don't like their version TBH.Originally posted by Fleetwood Mac View Post
It's more a Durham and Northumberland thing, but more Durham I reckon.
I know we're getting off accents here, but as a northerner, something that has always baffled me is tripe. What is that about? I've tried a few weird things - pig cheek sandwhich being one. But everytime I see a tray of tripe in the market I feel like I'm about to bring up my last meal. Do people actaully eat the stuff? I have never seen anyone buy the stuff, or know anyone that eats it. But there it always is - the minging tray of tripe. Always makes me think of that scene in one of the James Herriot books where to be polite he eats a whole load of really fatty ham with a couple of jars of piccalilli.
Last edited by Aethelwulf; 08-14-2023, 08:47 PM.
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