Trump charged

[FISHY1118]

Bullshit.



No, I'm just not watching through the lens of brainwashing and bias that you watch him through.




And if you defend Trump to any degree, whatsoever, you have no right to make this claim and therefore your opinion is irrelevant and just further proof of your bias.



More bullshit. Name one single media outlet that has ever made Biden out to be a Saint. More proof of your bias, and you doggedly sticking to your "opinion" of how the world is, in direct contrast to the actual facts.

Nobody thinks Biden is a GREAT president. Everyone is fully aware, that this was the best of an absolute pile of shitty options. He's not a saint, he's just far, far superior to what the Republicans offered as a candidate.

Seems bullshit is the go to word rather than actual obvious problems Biden mental health.

Seems we've stooped to this type of posting . Its all bullshit.


Its getting near impossible to any debate on this site without people getting fukin nasty. Shisssh.

[Ally]

The proof is every time he speaks

Bullshit.

Unless your watching a different biden to me .

No, I'm just not watching through the lens of brainwashing and bias that you watch him through.

I see a bumbling old fool ,you see something else, great we disagree .

And if you defend Trump to any degree, whatsoever, you have no right to make this claim and therefore your opinion is irrelevant and just further proof of your bias.

Some media make him out to be a Saint ,some a sinner . Depends which side you choose, in the end both are as bad as each other.

More bullshit. Name one single media outlet that has ever made Biden out to be a Saint. More proof of your bias, and you doggedly sticking to your "opinion" of how the world is, in direct contrast to the actual facts.

Nobody thinks Biden is a GREAT president. Everyone is fully aware, that this was the best of an absolute pile of shitty options. He's not a saint, he's just far, far superior to what the Republicans offered as a candidate.

[FISHY1118]

Uh, Fishy. You were the one who injected Biden into this thread, referring to him as "an even bigger clown" than Trump (Post #37).

You were the one who introduced the "whataboutism" in the first place.

Not really , I was commenting on the "whataboutism" in the context Svensson was talking about when using it in his post .

[FISHY1118]

you are of course entitled to stick to your guns, but I see nothing of out the ordinary for an 80 year old. whatever issues he may have are not going to result in a violent insurrection against congress.

Well I agree with your last part .

[FISHY1118]

I am not a "Biden Supporter". I think the fact that the best that the Democrats could drum up, is Biden, is a telling indictment on the Democratic process. Just like the fact that Trump is the lead for the Republicans is an absolutely telling indictment on Conservatism and humanity in general.

But saying "his lack of control over his faculties" as if it's a given fact is absolute BS and dishonest. There is literally zero proof that Biden has no control over his faculties except amongst hysterical media screamers and their deluded followers who lack the critical analysis to accurately judge a situation or a person on their actual merits, and not the horseshit they choose to feed themselves from whatever media tap they suck from.

The proof is every time he speaks

Unless your watching a different biden to me .

I see a bumbling old fool ,you see something else, great we disagree .

Some media make him out to be a Saint ,some a sinner . Depends which side you choose, in the end both are as bad as each other.

[rjpalmer]

Your ''Whataboutism' defense is really quite silly...
Like i said its a biden v biden discussion for me, nothing to do with trump.

Uh, Fishy. You were the one who injected Biden into this thread, referring to him as "an even bigger clown" than Trump (Post #37).

You were the one who introduced the "whataboutism" in the first place.

[Svensson]

Thats simply not the case at all ,but you want to make it that way so be it ,ill just respectfully disagree .

Your ''Whataboutism' defense is really quite silly, as Bidens lack of control over his faculties was on display right from the first day of his presidency long befor trump and his recent situation, which is what i commented on. .. So what your effectively saying is i cant comment or shouldnt on biden because i somehow support or am trying to deflect from trumps actions ? Sorry to let you down ,but thats not the case

Like i said its a biden v biden discussion for me, nothing to do with trump .

you are of course entitled to stick to your guns, but I see nothing of out the ordinary for an 80 year old. whatever issues he may have are not going to result in a violent insurrection against congress.

[Ally]

Thats simply not the case at all ,but you want to make it that way so be it ,ill just respectfully disagree .

Your ''Whataboutism' defense is really quite silly, as Bidens lack of control over his faculties was on display right from the first day of his presidency long befor trump and his recent situation, which is what i commented on. .. So what your effectively saying is i cant comment or shouldnt on biden because i somehow support or am trying to deflect from trumps actions ? Sorry to let you down ,but thats not the case

Like i said its a biden v biden discussion for me, nothing to do with trump .

I am not a "Biden Supporter". I think the fact that the best that the Democrats could drum up, is Biden, is a telling indictment on the Democratic process. Just like the fact that Trump is the lead for the Republicans is an absolutely telling indictment on Conservatism and humanity in general.

But saying "his lack of control over his faculties" as if it's a given fact is absolute BS and dishonest. There is literally zero proof that Biden has no control over his faculties except amongst hysterical media screamers and their deluded followers who lack the critical analysis to accurately judge a situation or a person on their actual merits, and not the horseshit they choose to feed themselves from whatever media tap they suck from.

[FISHY1118]

Oh, I fully understand that this is not a Trump vs. Biden argument for you. It could as well be a Trump vs. Sanders/Warren/Newsom/Buttigeig/whoever would be president. This is essentially a whataboutism to get to a place of false equivalency. And the reason you want to get to a place of false equivalency is that you can then "normalise" the insanity and criminality of Donald Trump. "Look, the other guy is falling over. And last week he fell asleep. So this proves that they are all equally bad and crazy" and we can "at least acknowledge this and move on".

Having equivalence between Trump's insanity and vindictiveness and Biden, who IMHO appears to be an average 80-year old would mean you would not have to confront your own responsibility in allowing this to happen. You know full well Trump's behaviour is not normal. Which is why you are bending over backwards to try and make it look normal. And the only possible way to try and make it look normal is an array of whataboutism and false quivalence.

Thats simply not the case at all ,but you want to make it that way so be it ,ill just respectfully disagree .

Your ''Whataboutism' defense is really quite silly, as Bidens lack of control over his faculties was on display right from the first day of his presidency long befor trump and his recent situation, which is what i commented on. .. So what your effectively saying is i cant comment or shouldnt on biden because i somehow support or am trying to deflect from trumps actions ? Sorry to let you down ,but thats not the case

Like i said its a biden v biden discussion for me, nothing to do with trump .

[Svensson]

Oh, I fully understand that this is not a Trump vs. Biden argument for you. It could as well be a Trump vs. Sanders/Warren/Newsom/Buttigeig/whoever would be president. This is essentially a whataboutism to get to a place of false equivalency. And the reason you want to get to a place of false equivalency is that you can then "normalise" the insanity and criminality of Donald Trump. "Look, the other guy is falling over. And last week he fell asleep. So this proves that they are all equally bad and crazy" and we can "at least acknowledge this and move on".

Having equivalence between Trump's insanity and vindictiveness and Biden, who IMHO appears to be an average 80-year old would mean you would not have to confront your own responsibility in allowing this to happen. You know full well Trump's behaviour is not normal. Which is why you are bending over backwards to try and make it look normal. And the only possible way to try and make it look normal is an array of whataboutism and false quivalence.

[FISHY1118]

I love it when people can't actually answer the point because they've been so thoroughly bested that they are reduced to making some childish claim like "I didn't bother to read your post!". It's a self-own that's hard to beat. On par with sticking ones fingers in ones ears and going "nyah-nyah I can't hear you". Masterful argument.

Ally, i would have thought it was obvious that im not here to argue about trump v Biden, its been done to death and like the the Kennedy thread of late it could go on forever with valid arguments on both sides .

I merely pointed out the fact about Bidens ability to to present himself to the public in such a way that befits the office he holds due to his lack of awareness of where he is and what his saying at that point in time i.e "gibberish ".

If there's any "nah nah" to be had its the failure of his supporters to at least acknowledge this and move on .

[Ally]

You lost me after using Biden articulation and Grammer in the same sentence im afraid.

I love it when people can't actually answer the point because they've been so thoroughly bested that they are reduced to making some childish claim like "I didn't bother to read your post!". It's a self-own that's hard to beat. On par with sticking ones fingers in ones ears and going "nyah-nyah I can't hear you". Masterful argument.

[FISHY1118]

tbh, I don't see that. BIden's grammar and articulation on far beyond what Trump is capable of. Have you actually attempted to read the quote from Trump I posted above? And this is in EVERY interview. EVERY sentence is basically completely INSANE and deluded. EVERY sentence. You want examples? Just read what I posted above. I just boldened the parts where he is gushing over multiple murderous dictators (which in itself should be completely disqualifying in US politics but this is how far the US conservatives have sunk). Here are a few others:

Trump claims to have rebuilt the military in 4 years: "I rebuilt our military, new planes, new tanks, new everything."
Trump claims that this new military has now been given away: "They’ve taken, the military that I’ve rebuilt, and they’ve given it all to Ukraine."

Fact check: the US has provided no planes and are about to provide around 50 tanks to Ukraine. Is Trump serioulsy suggesting that this is the entire US military? 50 tanks? and what happened to the 200,000 or so service men? Were they also "given to Ukraine" or are the not considered "part of the military"?

Here is Trump's attempt to describe president Xi as professional and focused on the job at hand: "You know, when he first came to Mar-a-Lago, It was so organized by them and by us, but by them very pom, pom, pom. Everything’s like business. No games, you know. They don’t say, Gee, how did the Yankees do last night? Oh, that was a wonderful. They don’t care. They don’t care about anything. I said, You ever go to a Broadway play? I’ll take you to one. Do you ever have plays like do you ever go.. No, I don’t know. He’s all this is business. These aren’t game players, right? I like it, you know, in a way, I like it. You have no life. But that’s what he likes"

WHAT?

Here is Trump's "recollection" that Xi apparently travelled half way around the world for a 15 minute (yes, fifteen minutes) meeting at a private members club with Trump. And then Xi, despite his incredible professionalism described above, overrun the meeting 16-fold (or 3 hours and 45 minutes): "When they came in, it was supposed to be a meeting that lasted exactly 15 minutes. . So we go to breakout sessions with all they had. Like 40 people. We had 40 people, you know, the comparables. Right? And we’re sitting across the table from each other in the ballroom of Mar a Lago. It was an amazing scene, but our meeting was supposed to take 15 minutes. It took 4 hours. We got along so well."

Just becasue they got along soooo well. More likely, Xi thought "let's keep him babbling for as long as possible so we get more info out of that idiot..... Who knows, he might end up showing us what intelligence they have on North Korea's Missiles...."

And all of this insanity is JUST ONE ANSWER in an interview full of BS from start to finish. And this is EVERY interview with him.



You know what? I look dazed and confused everytime my managers tell me what they want achieved in the next quarter or what the new "grand plan" is to retrain key customers all at the same time that they have not spoken to them in 3 years..... I habe fallen over myself in public. I have tripped over cobble-stones and children's toys. I have fallen over myself becasue I had a lose cartilidge in my right knee for a while. However, I did not have a camera pointed at myself during that time.

I can provide you with examples of Trump not recognising his own Limo in front of him when coming off a plane.

Or examples of Trump truggling with a slight slope on a dry sunny day at Westpoint (he later claimed the slope was wet and slippery) or struggling with his motorskills to drink a cup of water.

Or when Trump is asking "Where is Rudy [Guliani]?" when he is LITERALLY sitting in front of him.



I tell you one thing, he did however get the infrastructure package done which Trump attempted for 4 years but his own temper tantrums kept getting in the way. On the other hand, I see Trump as being the one who is trying to impersonate POTUS with his replica desk in Mar-a-lago, his pretend presidential seal and letterhead.

And while we're talking about BS, NYC court employees stated to Yahoo News that Trump's suggesting that everyone was crying was complete BS:

Former President Trump’s claim to a Fox News anchor that New York court employees were “crying” and apologizing for his arraignment on felony charges is “absolute BS” and doesn’t remotely resemble what took place, a law enforcement source familiar with the details of what transpired that day told Yahoo News.

“Zero,” said the source when asked how much truth there was to Trump’s colorful account. “There were zero people crying. There were zero people saying ‘I’m sorry.’”

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-tale-o...l?guccounter=1

But to be honest, we all knew that this was BS.

And I think that you also knew that this was BS, yet you didn't mind that this was BS.

And I find that interesting.

All the Best.

You lost me after using Biden articulation and Grammer in the same sentence im afraid.

[String]

People forget that Biden has a severe stutter so every time he speaks he must go through a routine to avoid stuttering, this could come across as being dodery. I’ve no doubt age is a factor too but at least he as far as I can tell doesn’t state easily proved bare faced lies to the people and has sensible policies.

[Svensson]

Yes of course the process of obtaining the presidency after the election .

It's the fact he can't string two sentences together most days,

tbh, I don't see that. BIden's grammar and articulation on far beyond what Trump is capable of. Have you actually attempted to read the quote from Trump I posted above? And this is in EVERY interview. EVERY sentence is basically completely INSANE and deluded. EVERY sentence. You want examples? Just read what I posted above. I just boldened the parts where he is gushing over multiple murderous dictators (which in itself should be completely disqualifying in US politics but this is how far the US conservatives have sunk). Here are a few others:

Trump claims to have rebuilt the military in 4 years: "I rebuilt our military, new planes, new tanks, new everything."
Trump claims that this new military has now been given away: "They’ve taken, the military that I’ve rebuilt, and they’ve given it all to Ukraine."

Fact check: the US has provided no planes and are about to provide around 50 tanks to Ukraine. Is Trump serioulsy suggesting that this is the entire US military? 50 tanks? and what happened to the 200,000 or so service men? Were they also "given to Ukraine" or are the not considered "part of the military"?

Here is Trump's attempt to describe president Xi as professional and focused on the job at hand: "You know, when he first came to Mar-a-Lago, It was so organized by them and by us, but by them very pom, pom, pom. Everything’s like business. No games, you know. They don’t say, Gee, how did the Yankees do last night? Oh, that was a wonderful. They don’t care. They don’t care about anything. I said, You ever go to a Broadway play? I’ll take you to one. Do you ever have plays like do you ever go.. No, I don’t know. He’s all this is business. These aren’t game players, right? I like it, you know, in a way, I like it. You have no life. But that’s what he likes"

WHAT?

Here is Trump's "recollection" that Xi apparently travelled half way around the world for a 15 minute (yes, fifteen minutes) meeting at a private members club with Trump. And then Xi, despite his incredible professionalism described above, overrun the meeting 16-fold (or 3 hours and 45 minutes): "When they came in, it was supposed to be a meeting that lasted exactly 15 minutes. . So we go to breakout sessions with all they had. Like 40 people. We had 40 people, you know, the comparables. Right? And we’re sitting across the table from each other in the ballroom of Mar a Lago. It was an amazing scene, but our meeting was supposed to take 15 minutes. It took 4 hours. We got along so well."

Just becasue they got along soooo well. More likely, Xi thought "let's keep him babbling for as long as possible so we get more info out of that idiot..... Who knows, he might end up showing us what intelligence they have on North Korea's Missiles...."

And all of this insanity is JUST ONE ANSWER in an interview full of BS from start to finish. And this is EVERY interview with him.

falls over himself on other days ,looked dazed and confused at press conference, needs to be prodded for a response, etc etc.

You know what? I look dazed and confused everytime my managers tell me what they want achieved in the next quarter or what the new "grand plan" is to retrain key customers all at the same time that they have not spoken to them in 3 years..... I habe fallen over myself in public. I have tripped over cobble-stones and children's toys. I have fallen over myself becasue I had a lose cartilidge in my right knee for a while. However, I did not have a camera pointed at myself during that time.

I can provide you with examples of Trump not recognising his own Limo in front of him when coming off a plane.

Or examples of Trump truggling with a slight slope on a dry sunny day at Westpoint (he later claimed the slope was wet and slippery) or struggling with his motorskills to drink a cup of water.

Or when Trump is asking "Where is Rudy [Guliani]?" when he is LITERALLY sitting in front of him.

He is a broken down ,babbling clown trying to impersonate the President of the United States.

I tell you one thing, he did however get the infrastructure package done which Trump attempted for 4 years but his own temper tantrums kept getting in the way. On the other hand, I see Trump as being the one who is trying to impersonate POTUS with his replica desk in Mar-a-lago, his pretend presidential seal and letterhead.

And while we're talking about BS, NYC court employees stated to Yahoo News that Trump's suggesting that everyone was crying was complete BS:

Former President Trump’s claim to a Fox News anchor that New York court employees were “crying” and apologizing for his arraignment on felony charges is “absolute BS” and doesn’t remotely resemble what took place, a law enforcement source familiar with the details of what transpired that day told Yahoo News.

“Zero,” said the source when asked how much truth there was to Trump’s colorful account. “There were zero people crying. There were zero people saying ‘I’m sorry.’”

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-tale-o...l?guccounter=1

But to be honest, we all knew that this was BS.

And I think that you also knew that this was BS, yet you didn't mind that this was BS.

And I find that interesting.

All the Best.