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  • #76
    For sure, the potential candidates aren't a great crop. What the country needs is a person to restore respect to the office of Prime Minister, to restore the faith of the people in their government, and to lead the country on a path back to leading the world in ways of fairness, decency and law.

    To my mind, there's only one man up to the job. Former Leeds United and Scotland forward Arthur Graham.

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    Thems the Vagaries.....

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    • #77
      There are a number of differences between partygate and beergate which show that there is no equivalence between the two. Such as:

      - There were at least 15 partygate events compared to 1 beergate event.
      - Several of the [partygate] events appeared notably drunken and rowdy. At a leaving do on 18 June 2020 there was karaoke, “excessive alcohol consumption” in which someone was sick and “a minor altercation between two other individuals”, with staff staying beyond 3am. Two leaving events on 14 April 2021, which merged in the No 10 garden, involved drunkenness and people leaving after 4am. At a Christmas party in December 2020 red wine was spilled on a wall and on stationery supplies. (https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-no-10-parties)
      - Emails and messages uncovered by Gray found regular planning of socialising [in partygate]

      Partygate happened at the regular workplace of the participants, i.e. they should have just gone home after their work was finished. Beergate however was an event that took place during by-election campaigning 400 miles north of London which means that the participants did NOT have the option to home at the end of the day until the campaign trip was concluded. This meant that accomodation and meal-provisions needed to be (wait for it) pre-planned, especially at a time when there were no restaurants open and you could just go grab a bite somewhere for dinner. All of which made Durham police conclude that this was a legitimate work-event and that a fine was not warranted. Which is also the reason why the story did not take off when it first surfaced in April 2021. Becasue the general public can tell the difference when someone is having a meal after a long day away from home and people taking the p**s. The story only gained traction after BoJo ws in such trouble that his fan-boy press desperately tried to go down "they are all equally bad" route with thier constant hammering of beergate.

      The Met issued a total of 126 fines for the events in Downing Street, making it possibly the most criminal postcode in the country for this 14 month period.

      Finally, Keir Starmer did not stand up in parliament multiple times to state categorically that there were no parties which then turned out to be untrue to such a spectacular level.
      Last edited by Svensson; 07-11-2022, 07:38 AM.

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      • #78
        That recap of the party gate details is shocking. We only heard the bare bones, mostly that the PM's staff parties violated his own rules during COVID-19 lockdown.

        I also think making staff stay until the early morning of the next day is inconsiderate to an extreme.
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