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  • Ally
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    What was the point of you INSISTING there was no mention of Socialism in your reply if you're going to follow it up with a ( biased, alt-right hysterically stupid) article comparing Nazi eugenics to socialism?

    What actual argument are you standing on? Do you consider the Nazi Eugenics program to be a product of socialized medicine or not?

    It's a really simple question Celee, why are you having such a hard time answering it in a straight-forward manner?

    Do you argue that eugenic policies was a product of socialized medicine or not? If not, why are you posting a link to it? You say other people have reading comprehension problems, perhaps you should examine what you're actually saying and see why that is.

    Third (fourth, fifth??) time: Are you claiming that Nazi eugenics programs are a product of Socialized Medicine? You can answer yes or no, it's really a simple question.

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  • celee
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    Also, I'm confused, you pitched an actual fit INSISTING your thing about Nazi's eugenic programARe you now retracting that claim? Are you now admitting that was what you were arguing all along's had nothing to do with socialized medicine and that you never said that.

    No genius, I "pitched an actual fit INSISTING" There was no mention of socialism in my reply to Svenn's question. See what I mean about reading comprehension.

    my neighbor's cat is too. And it licks its own ass and falls off the stairs regularly

    Your neighbor's cat sounds like a left-wing nut. If CNN told you all the smart "progressive" people were doing it. You would lick your own ass too.

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  • Ally
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    You probably read just the first paragraph and stopped. because the article discusses social medicine and the Nazi eugenics programs.
    Also, I'm confused, you pitched an actual fit INSISTING your thing about Nazi's eugenic programs had nothing to do with socialized medicine and that you never said that. ARe you now retracting that claim? Are you now admitting that was what you were arguing all along?

    I have noticed reading comprehension is something you have a problem with.
    Lol, yeah that's my problem. Projection is strong with this one.

    By the way, I literally have no problem outright owning and stating that I am in all ways 100 percent intellectually superior to you. I'm pretty sure my neighbor's cat is too. And it licks its own ass and falls off the stairs regularly.

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  • Ally
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    LOL, I asked you a question Celee, you haven't answered it yet, but you have time to write PARAGRAPHS defending your right wing extremism. Telling. Bonkers, but telling.

    How about answering a question instead of defending your extremist views and the racists who support them?

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  • celee
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    Originally posted by Ally View Post
    ...I bet he actually thinks that article is somehow relevant to the topic?

    It's not, but that's not the telling feature in his posting it. For those that don't know, the article he is sourcing is from an extremist right wing magazine, that is massively alt-right, and massively racist and notorious for pushing conspiracy theories, particularly against Islam.

    So...well that says a lot about a person, doesn't it? Nobody with any shred of sense would use that disgusting excrement as a source for anything, unless they were so far gone in their alt-right delusions that they genuinely don't know the difference anymore.

    Repulsive. But very enlightening.
    Yes, well when someone does not agree with you they are a right-wing extremist. Well, you are a left-wing nut. You probably read just the first paragraph and stopped. because the article discusses social medicine and the Nazi eugenics programs. I have noticed reading comprehension is something you have a problem with.

    Let's see. I cant reverence FOX News. I cannot reverence NewsMax. I can only use left-wing bias sources that you agree with. You have some nerve whining, like a child, asking for sources.

    All you want to do is argue. You have no interest in a discussion. I can see why people report you. You probably enjoy it. You enjoy abusing people. Does it make you feel better to abuse people? I have gone out of my way to avoid discussing anything with you and you have gone out of your way to insult me. I do not care about any opinion you have on any subject. Only an insecure person would be persuaded by your discussions. "Please Ally do not make fun of me anymore, I agree with you." You are an internet bully.

    It is people like you that divide America and people like you are why nobody can have any type of positive discussion. You use foul language and insults to show off your superior intellect? I am laughing at your superior intellect.

    BTW David Horowitz is Jewish. He is a reformed socialist. Who supported Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump that is the real problem is it not? he is a conservative Jew. Since when did the Democrat party become so anti-Semite. The Democrat Socialist party kind of reminds me of another socialist party. The similarities are frightening. You know what the Southern Poverty Law Center is not the Bible, babe. David has led a pretty interesting life you might want to do some research on him before you open your gator. The problem with the left today is they are disinterested in opposing views Anyone who does not fall in line with their ideology 100% is labeled a right-wing extremist. David is a very complex person who has had life experiences that have molded his political views like most of us. less, the person is a left-wing nut that allows their political views to be manipulated by biased media. David Horowitz does not agree with you so he must be a bad man. As a former Democrat, I can tell you it is people like you that are driving moderates away from the Democrat Party.
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  • Ally
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    ...I bet he actually thinks that article is somehow relevant to the topic?

    It's not, but that's not the telling feature in his posting it. For those that don't know, the article he is sourcing is from an extremist right wing magazine, that is massively alt-right, and massively racist and notorious for pushing conspiracy theories, particularly against Islam.

    So...well that says a lot about a person, doesn't it? Nobody with any shred of sense would use that disgusting excrement as a source for anything, unless they were so far gone in their alt-right delusions that they genuinely don't know the difference anymore.

    Repulsive. But very enlightening.

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  • celee
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    Originally posted by Svensson View Post

    I'm not disputing that this is correct, I am disputing that this is "socialised Health Care", which is your beef. For the record, socialised health care still existed in Nazi Germany, so people could go and see a doctor or a dentist at subsidised costs. Eugenics were not provided by the health care system but by legislation that would intern the feeble mindes in conentration camps where they were first sterilised, and used for forced labour, experiments, or just executed. Apples and Pears.
    good read svenn National Socialist Medicine and the Eugenics of the Overweight | Frontpagemag

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  • Ally
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    Originally posted by Svensson View Post
    Problem is, Ally, you and Celee will now be pulled off the Internet because you have mentioned the numbers in the VAERS database. According to Tucker.
    Oh don't be silly, why you'd have to be crazy to beli

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  • Svensson
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    Problem is, Ally, you and Celee will now be pulled off the Internet because you have mentioned the numbers in the VAERS database. According to Tucker.

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  • Svensson
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    Originally posted by celee View Post
    Svenn Question to me regarding Nazi Germany.

    What in particular do you not agree with in German health care between 1933 and 1945?

    My reply


    Forced sterilization Hitler's Germany. The forced sterilizations began in January 1934, and altogether an estimated 300,000 to 400,000 people were sterilized under the law. A diagnosis of "feeblemindedness" provided the grounds in the majority of cases, followed by schizophrenia and epilepsy. Most of the persons targeted by the law were patients in mental hospitals and other institutions. The majority of those sterilized were between the ages of twenty and forty,

    Forced sterilization in Germany was the forerunner of the systematic killing of the mentally ill and handicapped. In October 1939, Hitler himself initiated a decree which empowered physicians to grant a "mercy death" to "patients considered incurable according to the best available human judgment of their state of health." The intent of the so-called "euthanasia" program, however, was not to relieve the suffering of the chronically ill. The Nazi regime used the term as a euphemism: its aim was to exterminate the mentally ill and the handicapped, and elderly thus "cleansing" the "Aryan" race of persons considered genetically defective and a financial burden to society. In all, between 200,000 and 250,000 mentally and physically handicapped persons were murdered from 1939 to 1945 under the T-4 and other "euthanasia" programs.

    The disgusting thing is I am sure some people will approve of Nazi Eugenics.

    I never mentioned socialism in my reply.



    I'm not disputing that this is correct, I am disputing that this is "socialised Health Care", which is your beef. For the record, socialised health care still existed in Nazi Germany, so people could go and see a doctor or a dentist at subsidised costs. Eugenics were not provided by the health care system but by legislation that would intern the feeble mindes in conentration camps where they were first sterilised, and used for forced labour, experiments, or just executed. Apples and Pears.

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  • Ally
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    Originally posted by celee View Post

    You win ALLY I will reply to your comments since you have been practically begging for my attention.
    Oh don't play hard to get, half the responses you've been making to other people contain responses to things I've said, and they haven't. Playing the coquette only works if you aren't actually easy.

    People like you have no discernment whatsoever that is why your arguments are so inane and the fact you so arrogantly believe you are somehow intellectually superior to others makes you a pathetic case.
    And yet, at every turn, when asked to back up your arguments with actual facts, sources or other evidence you're utterly incapable of doing so, so.... hmmmm?

    I feel sorry for you. I can only hope your comments are part of your Queen Mean alter ego you like to have fun with because if you really are so foolishly arrogant and obnoxious you must get laughed at a lot. Like a poorly written sitcom character on a low-rated show.
    See more lies. Or just proving you're morally bankrupt. Personally, I don't go on rants against people I feel sorry for. I consider that punching down and beneath me. So which is it, do you not really feel sorry for me, or are you morally bankrupt?

    Svenn asked me a question about what I did not like about the Nazi Health care system. I answered him. Did I say the Nazi Eugenics program was because of socialism?
    Wow. Just wow. On the one hand you attempt to attack me for thinking I'm intellectually superior to you, then you post something like that. I actually am starting to feel like I'm punching down. Well this is unfortunate. Because that's just.... wow.

    But okay darling, you said that Nazi's were the worst example of socialized medicine.

    So, I'm going to ask you directly, how are Nazis the worst example of socialized medicine? You made a claim: Nazis were an example of socialized medicine run amok. So, how?


    Tucker is talking about lying in general. Everyone has lied. He goes on to say he does not like to lie and he tries never to lie on his show.

    He literally says he lies when he's backed into a corner. And "tries" not to lie? He says he does it when he's backed into a corner. He LITERALLY says if he's argued into a corner, on his show, he lies. And you're defending him. Yep, don't feel sorry for you anymore. He has a responsibility as someone being paid millions of dollars on a NEWS network to not allow his own personal ego and sense of affront to lead him into making rash, ego-driven lies. You have an excuse, you're doing this for free, he's being paid millions to lie.

    So let's see, multiple screaming insults because they can't maintain a cohesive narrative, followed by defending a man who says he lies when he's backed into a corner. Yep. Trumpers. Bastions of integrity.

    I mean at least I sprinkle actual facts into my heaping helping of ad hominem. You should try it. Facts add flavor to everything.


    Anyone else feel like this could be a SNL skit? A bad one, but still:

    Insane Person: Nazis are the worst example of socialized Medicine!!
    Sane Person: How?
    Insane Person: Nazis had forced sterilization!
    Sane Person: Forced Sterilization had nothing to do with Socialized medicine.
    Insane Person: I never said socialized medicine in my answer!! LAWYERED!

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  • celee
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    Svenn Question to me regarding Nazi Germany.

    What in particular do you not agree with in German health care between 1933 and 1945?

    My reply


    Forced sterilization Hitler's Germany. The forced sterilizations began in January 1934, and altogether an estimated 300,000 to 400,000 people were sterilized under the law. A diagnosis of "feeblemindedness" provided the grounds in the majority of cases, followed by schizophrenia and epilepsy. Most of the persons targeted by the law were patients in mental hospitals and other institutions. The majority of those sterilized were between the ages of twenty and forty,

    Forced sterilization in Germany was the forerunner of the systematic killing of the mentally ill and handicapped. In October 1939, Hitler himself initiated a decree which empowered physicians to grant a "mercy death" to "patients considered incurable according to the best available human judgment of their state of health." The intent of the so-called "euthanasia" program, however, was not to relieve the suffering of the chronically ill. The Nazi regime used the term as a euphemism: its aim was to exterminate the mentally ill and the handicapped, and elderly thus "cleansing" the "Aryan" race of persons considered genetically defective and a financial burden to society. In all, between 200,000 and 250,000 mentally and physically handicapped persons were murdered from 1939 to 1945 under the T-4 and other "euthanasia" programs.

    The disgusting thing is I am sure some people will approve of Nazi Eugenics.

    I never mentioned socialism in my reply.




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  • celee
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    Originally posted by Ally View Post

    Jesus Christ. The video is literally in the first article that Sven linked to you which you claimed you read and then dismissed as being leftwing nonsense. He is literally on video, saying he lies when he's cornered and out of weakness in an article that was given to you not 12 hours ago, and you're here asking for it again. Go back, click on the link that was already given to you, and WATCH FOR YOURSELF.


    Nobody said they never happened, what is being stated and which is factual is that your claim that they are a result of socialized medicine is horseshit. They happened. It had nothing to do with socialized medicine any more than the ongoing Eugenics project in the United states had to do with Socialized medicine. It's not that hard of a concept to grasp. You should ask yourself what mental block is just preventing you from grasping it? Brainwashing, maybe?




    He literally quoted your exact words and asked you to expound on your reasonings. How could you NOT have understood the topic? He QUOTED you and asked a follow up.

    Stop blaming everyone else for your inability to think beyond a blurb. That's your issue, and it's not everyone else's fault you're blinkered and refused to accept basic evidence, even when it's spoonfed to you, because you'd rather cling to your fantasies.

    You aren't a victim of anything except your own willful obstinance.
    You win ALLY I will reply to your comments since you have been practically begging for my attention.

    People like you have no discernment whatsoever that is why your arguments are so inane and the fact you so arrogantly believe you are somehow intellectually superior to others makes you a pathetic case. I feel sorry for you. I can only hope your comments are part of your Queen Mean alter ego you like to have fun with because if you really are so foolishly arrogant and obnoxious you must get laughed at a lot. Like a poorly written sitcom character on a low-rated show.

    First Nobody said they never happened, what is being stated and which is factual is that your claim that they are a result of socialized medicine is horseshit

    Svenn asked me a question about what I did not like about the Nazi Health care system. I answered him. Did I say the Nazi Eugenics program was because of socialism?

    The video is literally in the first article that Sven linked to you which you claimed you read and then dismissed as being leftwing nonsense. He is literally on video, saying he lies when he's cornered and out of weakness in an article that was given to you not 12 hours ago, and you're here asking for it again. Go back, click on the link that was already given to you, and WATCH FOR YOURSELF.

    Tucker is talking about lying in general. Everyone has lied. He goes on to say he does not like to lie and he tries never to lie on his show. Meaning, if you had an ounce of discernment, he may say something that is untrue on his show unintentionally. Refreshing honesty. Full quote. “I really try not to. I try never to lie on TV. I just don’t ― I don’t like lying [but] I certainly do it, you know, out of weakness or whatever.”The 52-year-old host claimed that his rivals at competing cable networks like CNN “systematically” and deliberately lie to protect “the system” How many times has a CNN host said something that has turned out not to be true? Tucker is explaining they do it deliberately. I agree with his opinion.

    Why do you keep butting into my discussions with other people? I told you I do not enjoy your type of debating style. Rude and obnoxious.






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  • Svensson
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    Originally posted by Al Bundy's Eyes View Post

    Best get Sven's irony detector booked in for repairs again...
    I should be able to pick it up tomorrow. Why?

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  • Al Bundy's Eyes
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    Originally posted by celee View Post

    I hope you do not mind if I reach out to you from time to time for your discernment. There is so much I do not understand.

    Thank you

    PS I was wrong about Trump. Trump bad. I am so glad our life's journey has crossed paths. I am lucky and privileged to correspond with you, buddy.

    Best get Sven's irony detector booked in for repairs again...

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