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  • The Royal Family - Who Is Being a Jerk?

    Very confusing but yet interesting to us Yanks (well sort of). Don't really know what is going on. So can someone from across the pond enlighten me? Who is being the jerk in all this? Is it the Queen? Will and Kate? Harry and Meghan? What exactly is going on?

    Your opinion please.

    c.d.

  • #2
    Harry and Megan?

    It's good to see a young family getting off of state benefits and into employment. I hope it's an example the rest of the extended family can follow.

    The royals - "Shameless" with posh people.
    Thems the Vagaries.....

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    • #3
      Ask yourself a question. Would you go on tv and tell a bunch of porkies about your 95-year-old granny-in-law? Or moan with a straight face that your daddy had cut you, a healthy 36-year-old former soldier, off financially , leaving you and your independently wealthy wife struggling to survive on the millions your mummy and great granny had left you?

      I’d rather have both legs removed without anaesthesia.


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      • #4
        No one really is more of a Jerk than the other IMHO. The inner circle of the UK Royal Family are living in a bubble carefully constructed of protocol and tradition. It is not surprising to me that they still hold views and attitudes that belong to the early part of the last century. What my own dad did to me in the eighties is pretty much on par compared to Prince Charles stopped answering Harry's calls. And my dad certainly was no Royal....

        Then again, Charles in particular is at least attempting to use his status for the greater good by promoting environmentally sensible agriculture throughout Europe or to integrate with the wider community in general.

        However, im just not interested in the internal politics of another family, I have enough of that on my own...

        Finally, I don't understand Harry's motivation to wash his dirty laundry in public. It just makes it all no better and therefore no more relevant than a common garden episode of Jerry Springer.

        Cheers.

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        • #5
          Easily detectable lies/inconsistencies were told in the interview. But that doesn’t matter in today’s world (perhaps it never did).

          The poor darlings left the U.K. because the tabloid press here was being horrible to them. CBS filled the screen with examples of really nasty headlines to prove the point. For some strange reason, though, they omitted to include the names of the papers involved.

          Imagine my surprise when I looked a few of them up to see which papers were spouting this ugly stuff and discovered they weren’t U.K. papers at all. They were US tabloids - that’s right the US, the place where the publicity shy couple went to seek refuge from press intrusion.


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          • #6
            There seems to be no shortage of dirty laundry and no one appears to be smelling like a rose.

            c.d.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by c.d. View Post
              There seems to be no shortage of dirty laundry and no one appears to be smelling like a rose.

              c.d.
              Meghan broadcast to the world that her son was not made a prince because of the colour of his skin. The truth is that under rules laid down in 1917, no son of Harry’s, irrespective of who his mother was, would have been born a prince.

              I feel sorry for poor Archie, he will either grow up accepting his mother’s lies and believe his birthright was denied him because of his ethnicity or discover that she is a publicity-seeking liar.



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              • #8
                Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post

                Meghan broadcast to the world that her son was not made a prince because of the colour of his skin. The truth is that under rules laid down in 1917, no son of Harry’s, irrespective of who his mother was, would have been born a prince.

                I feel sorry for poor Archie, he will either grow up accepting his mother’s lies and believe his birthright was denied him because of his ethnicity or discover that she is a publicity-seeking liar.


                Couldn’t agree more Gary. I just think Meghan and Harry want to be Posh and Becks rather than members of the Royal Family. That stuff about Archie not being a Prince because of the colour of his skin is a complete lie. Like the stuff about the family (and the UK tax payer) not being willing to cough up for the security that they’d require living abroad. You’d think that the Queen had condemned them to live in some run down apartment on the Bronx surrounded by drug dealers. They decided to move away so they or their ‘new’ country should pay. When I was younger I used to complain that the Queen didn’t have a real job and was surrounded by servants in Palaces and Castles (which is partly true of course) but her life is about duty and that’s something William and Kate are prepared to do but Harry and Meghan aren’t. They just wanted the good bits. It’s nothing to do with Meghan being American or of mixed race. That’s irrelevant. There was no resistance to them marrying after all. It’s about them trying to manipulate opinion and trying to demonise the Royal Family and The Press. I can’t recall anything bad said about either of them?

                Meghan’s an actress and it shows. Why do people think Oprah Winfrey is a good interviewer? She makes me cringe. For me, this marriage has divorce written all over it.
                Regards

                Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

                  Couldn’t agree more Gary. I just think Meghan and Harry want to be Posh and Becks rather than members of the Royal Family. That stuff about Archie not being a Prince because of the colour of his skin is a complete lie. Like the stuff about the family (and the UK tax payer) not being willing to cough up for the security that they’d require living abroad. You’d think that the Queen had condemned them to live in some run down apartment on the Bronx surrounded by drug dealers. They decided to move away so they or their ‘new’ country should pay. When I was younger I used to complain that the Queen didn’t have a real job and was surrounded by servants in Palaces and Castles (which is partly true of course) but her life is about duty and that’s something William and Kate are prepared to do but Harry and Meghan aren’t. They just wanted the good bits. It’s nothing to do with Meghan being American or of mixed race. That’s irrelevant. There was no resistance to them marrying after all. It’s about them trying to manipulate opinion and trying to demonise the Royal Family and The Press. I can’t recall anything bad said about either of them?

                  Meghan’s an actress and it shows. Why do people think Oprah Winfrey is a good interviewer? She makes me cringe. For me, this marriage has divorce written all over it.
                  According to Meghan the big do millions watched wasn’t their real marriage. It was just a performance. They’d already married in contravention of Church and civil law in their back garden. Just the two of them and the ArchBofC - no witnesses as required by law, no access to the public so objections could be raised.

                  Does she really believe that?

                  If it’s true that Welby performed some kind of illegal marriage ceremony, then perhaps they aren’t really married at all.

                  They should have been interviewed by Paxman or Andrew Neil - or how about the late great Mrs Merton. What was it she asked Debbie McGee? ‘So, Debbie, what was it that first attracted you to the multi-millionaire Paul Daniels’





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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post

                    According to Meghan the big do millions watched wasn’t their real marriage. It was just a performance. They’d already married in contravention of Church and civil law in their back garden. Just the two of them and the ArchBofC - no witnesses as required by law, no access to the public so objections could be raised.

                    Does she really believe that?

                    If it’s true that Welby performed some kind of illegal marriage ceremony, then perhaps they aren’t really married at all.

                    They should have been interviewed by Paxman or Andrew Neil - or how about the late great Mrs Merton. What was it she asked Debbie McGee? ‘So, Debbie, what was it that first attracted you to the multi-millionaire Paul Daniels’




                    So they had a quiet service? Was The Archbishop driven back to Lambeth Palace by a bloke called Netley by any chance? You couldn’t make it up. Oh, hold on...they did.
                    Regards

                    Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                    “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                    • #11
                      Number of inconsistencies in Markel’s story. My guess is Harry always wanted a way out but never had the balls to do so on his own. She came along with grand ideas and she became his very own Mrs Wallace. They benefitted from each other.

                      Most of what was in that show were exaggerations at the very least.

                      Guaranteed divorce written all over this.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post

                        Meghan broadcast to the world that her son was not made a prince because of the colour of his skin. The truth is that under rules laid down in 1917, no son of Harry’s, irrespective of who his mother was, would have been born a prince.

                        I feel sorry for poor Archie, he will either grow up accepting his mother’s lies and believe his birthright was denied him because of his ethnicity or discover that she is a publicity-seeking liar.


                        The issue was not that Archie was not to be Prince, a SIDE-issue was that he was not going to receive a TITLE, which does not have to be a Prince.

                        there are plenty of examples of the UK press treating Marple VERY differently to other Royals. In these examples, the Murdoch rags Daily Express and Daily Mail:

                        Last edited by Svensson; 03-21-2021, 10:06 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by erobitha View Post
                          Number of inconsistencies in Markel’s story. My guess is Harry always wanted a way out but never had the balls to do so on his own. She came along with grand ideas and she became his very own Mrs Wallace. They benefitted from each other.

                          Most of what was in that show were exaggerations at the very least.

                          Guaranteed divorce written all over this.
                          Regards

                          Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                          “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Svensson View Post

                            The issue was not that Archie was not to be Prince, a SIDE-issue was that he was not going to receive a TITLE, which does not have to be a Prince.

                            there are plenty of examples of the UK press treating Marple VERY differently to other Royals. In these examples, the Murdoch rags Daily Express and Daily Mail:

                            I’m not saying that you’re wrong Svensson but I’m not aware of them. Could you give us a few examples?
                            Regards

                            Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                            “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Svensson View Post

                              The issue was not that Archie was not to be Prince, a SIDE-issue was that he was not going to receive a TITLE, which does not have to be a Prince.

                              there are plenty of examples of the UK press treating Marple VERY differently to other Royals. In these examples, the Murdoch rags Daily Express and Daily Mail:

                              No, he was perfectly entitled to be known as the Earl of Dumbarton.

                              Meghan’s treatment was similar to that of other Royals. Sarah Ferguson, The Duchess of Pork’ for example. Or Prince Andrew, ‘Randy Andy’. Charles, ears exaggerated to make him look like Dumbo in cartoons, had the piss taken out of him for talking to vegetables. The Duke of Edinburgh’s verbal incontinence... Meghan was initially welcomed with open arms by the press and the public. But once you’re in the limelight, if the press gets a whiff of hypocrisy you’re fair game.

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