just had a trawl through this thread and had a peak at the "evidence" on the website....all i can say is "FOR GOODNESS SAKE !!".......i shall leave it there
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News Flash!! . . . VINCENT VAN GOGH WAS JACK THE RIPPER!!
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"more than a century has passed since Jack disappeared into the night,
but in a hundred years or more of guess work, surely there could have been less preposterous shite.....
the man who brushed and dabbed in the oils for his art, would i am sure, laugh to the bottom of his heart......."
I shall get my coat !!
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Originally posted by Nemo View PostWhich letters are these?
Angel of Death, 10/8/88
Jibberish, 12/04/88
Stylish S, 07/19/89
If I’m Hung, 04/17/90
I’m guessing that you’re asking because there are others on those dates and you want to know which I’m referring to. If you’re referencing the wonderfully compiled Stewart Evans book, Letters from Hell, then providing the opening of each that’s shown in his book should give you what you need.
Angel of Death, 10/8/88, [skull and crossbones] “I am as you see by this note . . .”
Jibberish, 12/04/88, [largely illegible] “Jack THE Skipper”
Stylish S, 07/19/89, “Say now boss no ‘narrow escape’ . . .”
If I’m Hung, 04/17/90, “Do you think yourself a man . . .”
Thanks for asking, hope that gives you what you are after.
Dale Larner
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Thanks for the reply Dale
I've had an interest in the extant "Ripper" letters for a while now
I'd be interested in the full list of letters you believe originated with VVG and an explanation as to how and why you settled upon these letters
I say "originated" because there is the possibility within your theory that other people wrote and posted the letters on his behalf
This is because even within the partial list you have so kindly provided, I see no connection in the writing, diction, dates etc, some of them being contradictory. There are also a number of addressees
Clues within the letters must be false if VVG wrote them because, for example, in one letter he states he is not bearded. In another he claims all the victims from Emma Smith to Chapman, in another he claims to have bought grapes from Packer etc
So if nothing can be relied on within the content, that leaves handwriting and the dates and locations from which they were posted
Most are from East London and one is from Taunton and another from Limerick
The Taunton one would be the illegible letter, which by definition could only have significance in the handwriting or date sent
Have you been able to compare handwriting on all these letters or are you assuming VVG could change his writing style at will?
Thanks in advance for any reply
Best Regards
NemoLast edited by Nemo; 05-15-2012, 02:59 PM.
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Originally posted by Nemo View PostThanks for the reply Dale
I've had an interest in the extant "Ripper" letters for a while now
I'd be interested in the full list of letters you believe originated with VVG and an explanation as to how and why you settled upon these letters
I say "originated" because there is the possibility within your theory that other people wrote and posted the letters on his behalf
This is because even within the partial list you have so kindly provided, I see no connection in the writing, diction, dates etc, some of them being contradictory. There are also a number of addressees
Clues within the letters must be false if VVG wrote them because, for example, in one letter he states he is not bearded. In another he claims all the victims from Emma Smith to Chapman, in another he claims to have bought grapes from Packer etc
So if nothing can be relied on within the content, that leaves handwriting and the dates and locations from which they were posted
Most are from East London and one is from Taunton and another from Limerick
The Taunton one would be the illegible letter, which by definition could only have significance in the handwriting or date sent
Have you been able to compare handwriting on all these letters or are you assuming VVG could change his writing style at will?
Thanks in advance for any reply
Best Regards
Nemo
Of course, I won’t be able to provide you with the full list of the Ripper letters that I believe were written by Van Gogh, nor the detailed explanation of why I chose those letters. You’ll have to experience that in the book.
I would simply note that I believe Van Gogh wrote the majority of the Ripper letters, which means some were hoaxes. How I arrived at determining which letters were written by Van Gogh involved exhausted research of the Ripper letters and Van Gogh’s letters, examining and comparing each based on all the expected criteria, such as handwriting, location, dating, content, and visuals.
As for Van Gogh’s handwriting, I didn’t need to assume he wrote in varied hands, he did so in his own letters, which is a similar characteristic to the many Ripper letters.
I wish I could be more specific, but you’ll have to wait for the book for the specifics in this area. But I’ll let you know that with your interest in the Ripper letters you are sure to be fascinated by what’s presented.
Thanks,
Dale Larner
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Er, No
Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostHi Dale,
Have you ever considered stand-up comedy?
Regards,
Simon
I suspect the answer to that is 'No'. I wonder who VVG sent the letters to in order to get the 'EC' postmark which fooled the police (and everyone else) so completely.
Regards, Bridewell.I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.
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I wish I could be more specific, but you’ll have to wait for the book for the specifics in this area.
Regards, BridewellI won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.
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Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostHi Dale,
Have you ever considered stand-up comedy?
Regards,
Simon
Cheers,
Dale Larner
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Originally posted by Bridewell View PostWhich are the areas in which we won't have to 'wait for the book' in order to get the specifics?
Regards, Bridewell
Thanks,
Dale Larner
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Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View PostYeah, but why don't you just put the book out already?
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott
You'll have to have some patience, but it will be worth it.
Thanks,
Dale Larner
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Wait for it..
You'll have to have some patience, but it will be worth it.
Ripperology is awash with people endlessly promising to 'solve' the whole conundrum at the moment - but where are the goods?
It's all so much posturing, in my view. I'm sure that anybody with an actual contribution to make to the field would employ quite different tactics.
But never mind. At least it means that my crackpot bin stays nice and full....
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