Steve Powell

[Victoria]

Hello Victoria,

"all actors on a stage" ?

That is zoroastrian too.
The stage being a battle opposing good and evil.

...but the answers aren't that simple...unfortunately.

Hence H.S. Nyberg saying : "Whoever have dealt with these texts has resigned himself to translate differently in the morning from what he did the night before."

Or Kaj Barr : "The more I study the Gathas, the less I understand them."

To start understanding what it is all about, Jean Kellens' works are essential, especially his "Zarathustra and the old Avesta" (1991).

Keep the fire burning.

Amitiés,
David

Hello David,

I used the quote 'all actors on a stage' as in my head was a song ..
that has a line it it .. "We're actors on a stage"
And in reference to the many quotes from Shakespeare on the subject,
Here's another to add to the above post ..

"Tomorrow, and tomorrow and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
the way to dusty death.
Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow,
A poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard of no more.
It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
~Macbeth~

And even this from a modern play ..
"What you don't realize is that we are all just little bit players,
in a little bit play, in some little bit universe.
We're actors, playing actors, playing actors."

I know very little about Zoroastrianism .. my reference to 'actors on a stage'
is as you can see from above .. refers to,
The illusion of this world appearance,
It's transient nature ..as is also shown in Tibetan sand Mandalas,
and in so many ways .. by so many traditions, and people ..
'All Things Must Pass' .. George Harrison.

I do believe though that Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Hinduism and all
authentic teachings/traditions/paths .. are ultimately the same.
I am not referring to religion .. which is further removed from the source
and corrupted, full of dogma and causes wars and strife.

But the esoteric, the spiritual meaning .. the Truth behind the form.

From Zoroastrianism,
The Creator Ahura Mazda is all good, no evil originates from Him.
One 'uncreated Creator'

From
'The Upanishads'
"That is perfect. This is perfect. Perfect comes from perfect.
May peace and peace and peace be everywhere."
The Vedantist view is also ultimately of one 'uncreated Creator'.

The book you mention sounds interesting 'Zarathustra and the old Avesta'
I shall add it to my future book reading list.
All the best to you David

[Victoria]

Our revels now are ended. These our actors,
As I foretold you, were all spirits, and
Are melted into air, into thin air:
And, like the baseless fabric of this vision,
The cloud-capp'd towers, the gorgeous palaces,
The solemn temples, the great globe itself,
Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve,
And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,
Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff
As dreams are made on; and our little life
Is rounded with a sleep.

~Groucho Marx, 'Duck Soup'~

????? What Groucho Marx, quoting Shakespeare from
~The Tempest~ ?
Fantastic words ....
our 'little' life rounded with the sleep of death.
This insubstantial pageant .. just like a stage, an illusion.

Also ...
"All The World's a Stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts,"

And from "The Merchant of Venice"
Antonio:
"I hold the world but as the world, Gratiano,
A stage where every man must play a part,
And mine a sad one."

[Phil Carter]

But- Beware 20/12/2012 though- The Mayans may JUST be right...........

Suzi,

Can I pleeeeease use that excuse to get the SD files opened up?

LOL

[Johnr]

" Ah, Don't Be Like Thaa-at"....

Or as we should all be quoting to a certain eponymous poster...


"Oh go on, stop muckin' abaht ".




JOHN RUFFELS.

[Phil Carter]

I think what Steve is trying to say is:
"Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in for me!"

Chris, Dear old Kenneth Williams would approve of his lines being requoted on a Jack the Ripper web site I feel.
To quote another dear lost comedian of the same ilk as Williams..

"'Ere,,what?..No...'ere, I should co-co. Mmmm, yes! And another thing....
titter nay!"

[DVV]

Thanks David and Suz.

Did Lake Garda a couple of years back actually - plus Verona and Venice. Superb.

Love,

Caz
XXX

Superb, indeed.
I love Verona, although some parts are ruff...
Venice...what can I say ? Been there 5 times and still miss it.
Lake Garda... Desenzano, Salo, Limone...
I even had the chance to visit the house (but is it a house?) of d'Annunzio.

You're a woman of taste, no doubt!

Amitiés,
David

[Chris]

Carry on little ones.

WTF is that all about??- back to JTR I say

I think what Steve is trying to say is:
"Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in for me!"

[Suzi]

I've read your posts here and frankly, they're very boring.
Here you are on a website devoted to finding out who was
and who wasn't Jack the Ripper, and you post rubbish that could be on
any ordinary, childish site.
When I first decided to come here, to tell you priviliged information,
which I thought you would discuss like humans with an inquisitive
and intellectual mind,
I gave you the benefit of the doubt and thought I would trust
that you genuinely sought the truth.
Seems I was wrong.
No-one can tell the truth here as you don't seem to care of that.
Some think I am here just to yank your chain and be someone.
Others make up reasons,any reasons to satisfy themselves
that what I have been saying is just lies or self-deception.
Life will always be full of fools and there are a lot here.
Your cheesy quips and Mickey Mouse quotes belong in kindergarten.
Why do I stay here and not seek the grace
of being banned from this kiddie site?
maybe I'm amazed at watching you delude yourselves with your opinions
that have no substance, like a reeking smell of rotting vegetation.
There is also another reason I stay, and that is there are some people here
who are elevated beyond your limited imagination that are worth staying for
It is to them that I speak, not the foolish children.
Carry on little ones.

WTF is that all about??- back to JTR I say

[Chris]

Life will always be full of fools and there are a lot here.
Your cheesy quips and Mickey Mouse quotes belong in kindergarten.

"When there is a great deal of free speech, there is always a certain amount of foolish speech."

~The Rt Hon. Sir M. Mouse, K. G.~

[Steve Powell]

Now children.....

I've read your posts here and frankly, they're very boring.
Here you are on a website devoted to finding out who was
and who wasn't Jack the Ripper, and you post rubbish that could be on
any ordinary, childish site.
When I first decided to come here, to tell you priviliged information,
which I thought you would discuss like humans with an inquisitive
and intellectual mind,
I gave you the benefit of the doubt and thought I would trust
that you genuinely sought the truth.
Seems I was wrong.
No-one can tell the truth here as you don't seem to care of that.
Some think I am here just to yank your chain and be someone.
Others make up reasons,any reasons to satisfy themselves
that what I have been saying is just lies or self-deception.
Life will always be full of fools and there are a lot here.
Your cheesy quips and Mickey Mouse quotes belong in kindergarten.
Why do I stay here and not seek the grace
of being banned from this kiddie site?
maybe I'm amazed at watching you delude yourselves with your opinions
that have no substance, like a reeking smell of rotting vegetation.
There is also another reason I stay, and that is there are some people here
who are elevated beyond your limited imagination that are worth staying for
It is to them that I speak, not the foolish children.
Carry on little ones.

[caz]

"The world will little note nor long remember what we say here ..."

~M. Thatcher, The Goose Green Address~

Probably just as well in our case!

[Chris]

"The world will little note nor long remember what we say here ..."

~M. Thatcher, The Goose Green Address~

[Suzi]

Thanks David and Suz.

Did Lake Garda a couple of years back actually - plus Verona and Venice. Superb.

Love,

Caz
XXX

AND Doreen and Co were the icing on the case 'eh!!!...Just ONE word of warning ....'BEWARE the treachery of toilet paper' .Ssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaagh!!!!

Suz xxxxxxxx

[caz]

Thanks David and Suz.

Did Lake Garda a couple of years back actually - plus Verona and Venice. Superb.

Love,

Caz
XXX

[Suzi]

He heeeee VERRY few!!!!....curiously!!!
Hey did you hear on the ghastly Chris Evans (Come back Terry!) Show the other day he was talking to a Mike Barrett- Executive in Chief of the Deed Poll name changing thing? hehe Just pm'd you. Roll on Lake Como and 'The Ladies' hehe

Have a great w/e all too!!!!

Suz xxxxx