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[Mike Covell]

I have all of Graham Hancocks works, and love looking at the weird structures he has found, I also enjoy the stuff by Richard Hoagland, who did the Enterprise Mission stuff, regarding Structures on Mars and the Moon!

I would love to see Ray Santilli speak, just so I could heckle him for selling Alien Autopsy videos! I was one of the idiots who bought the autopsy videos!!

I also have Erik Von Danikkens books, I got many of them given, 1st editions too!!

[Maria]

I have all of Graham Hancocks works, and love looking at the weird structures he has found, I also enjoy the stuff by Richard Hoagland, who did the Enterprise Mission stuff, regarding Structures on Mars and the Moon!

I would love to see Ray Santilli speak, just so I could heckle him for selling Alien Autopsy videos! I was one of the idiots who bought the autopsy videos!!

I also have Erik Von Danikkens books, I got many of them given, 1st editions too!!

Erik Von Danikkens got it all WRONG !!!

To start with, he did not believe that Native American Indians like the Mayas created such wonderful feats in engineering, medicine, architecture, mathematics etc. I think it is racist to suppose that only European civilizations are capable of having attained such degree of sophistication and to a large extent, methods of construction that even now we don´t have a clue how they were done.

It is true that when the Spanish Conquistadores arrived in Mexico, this ancient civilization had long been extinguished, but then... all empires succumb in the end. They rise, have a peak and then they crumble, the same thing happened with the ancient Maya empire and the Aztec empire that replaced them which in turn was also destroyed by the Spanish invaders.

I tell you one of the crazy things he got wrong... the man who looks like if he is in a control cabin pushing buttons as though he is in a space-ship. That is the tree of life ! The supposed electric wires are just an implement where a king bleeds himself, as it was the Maya custume there is nothing there to suggest any of his outrageous claims at all. Anyone who is versed in Maya culture would know what he wrote is complete tosh!

You bought those Alien Autopsy DvD´s ??? Mike !!
Well at least... what can I say ? They could be collector´s item of a hoax. A bit like the hoax JTR diary. It is worthless I know... but just take it for what it is: A hoax.

-Maria

[Maria]

I like Fanthorpe's books and he always gives good TV. My only problem with him is his stated position that he will never accept any historical evidence that contradicts or questions the divinity of Christ.

Hi Magpie !

Isaac Newton had the same... how can I say this... his Christian beliefs were an obstacle in some of the aspects of his scientific research. He could not admit the work by the Russian Scientist Imanuel Velikovsky " Worlds in Collission " because it interfeared with his beliefs that God could not allow the earth could be striken by other celestial bodies. So Velikovsky´s work was largely ignored by the man of science of his time like Isaac Newton. As it turned out Velikovsky was right when he prepounded the fact that we can be hit, and not only that, but also destroyed into tiny smitherings by giant incandescent asteroids 10 times bigger than the earth with incredible force at the speed of a bullet !

- Maria

[Magpie]

I have all of Graham Hancocks works, and love looking at the weird structures he has found, I also enjoy the stuff by Richard Hoagland, who did the Enterprise Mission stuff, regarding Structures on Mars and the Moon!

I have two of Hancock's books--the one about the Sphinx and the one about the Ark of The Covenant. I've only made it through the Ark book, and the guy comes off as a complete ***hole (pardon my Latvian). He makes some very interesting points though.

[Doctor X]

Van Daniken and Hancock constitute the Library of Suck.

People collect so many interesting things. . . .

--J.D.

[Magpie]

People collect so many interesting things. . . .

--J.D.

They certainly do. I collect non-sport trading cards and Betty Page memorabilia, amongst other things.

[Doctor X]

They certainly do. I collect non-sport trading cards and Betty Page memorabilia, amongst other things.

What . . . sort of Betty Page memorabilia. . . .

[Right! Stop that!--Ed.]

Yes . . . sorry.

--J.D.

[Maria]

Magpie:

Graham Hanckok and Von Danikken have taken real things or curious artefacts and come up with their own silly conclusions.

Like for example in Von Danikken´s case with the Nazca giant drawings on the ground in South America which can only be seen from an airplane, now... the perfect drawings of a humming-bird, a monkey, a spider do really exist as they are there for everyone to see them, but it is the silly conclusions this author gives which is really absurd !

When Von Danikken says that such lines could only have been done for the aliens to help them land as a sort of airport for aliens. That is ridiculous. I have never heard anything more ridiculous than that. The lines were done by the Nazca civilization but the reason, why these were done, are more likely to be for religious reasons, in reality its still being investigated and there are several theories, like it is possible these were done to reflect what you see in the sky at night, since in ancient times, they had the monkey constellation, which it is now the Scorpion constellation, as it looks just like an Scorpion.

Interestingly, in the Southern Hemisphere you can see the Scorpion, even the sting, the tail, the body, the claws and the little legs, in the ski. Whilst in the Northern Hemisphere we can only see the sting of the Scorpion which we know as the Plough ! Other people call it: The Saucepan. Anyway, the plough its only a tiny fraction of the whole Scorpion.

Graham Hanckok submerged continents its very interesting as we know, there have been cities which have been claimed by the ocean. One of these cities is in Santorinii near Greece. Santorinii is built around the edges of a volcano and in the center of this volcano, there is a perfect circle which looks like a lake, a city was situated there and was overwhelmed with water, so it sank with the waves, many think this might be Plato´s Atlantis. Who knows.

- Maria

[The Good Michael]

I've been to Nazca. The lines are pretty cool, but anyone could have made them. In fact, I would say the Mississippian culture of middle America did more impressive things with ordinary piles of dirt.

Mike

[sdreid]

I see that there's now a guy who claims he has the elusive Marilyn Monroe porn film possibly giving JFK a Lewinsky. Shhhuuuuurrrrre

[Tom_Wescott]

Graham Hancock

I'm surprised to see Magpie calling Graham Hancock an ***hole (I read his Ark book and wasn't drawn to that conclusion) and Maria calling his conclusions silly. Perhaps some are (I've not read much of his work), but I must say the man has reasoning powers and knowledge the likes of which are sorely lacking in most fields of theory, including our very own. Can Mike Covell or anyone else who hasn't written off Graham Hancock as an ***hole recommend any other of his books?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

P.S. Shouldn't this thread be called 'Recently Read Books and Conventions Attended'?

[steje73]

I've got all Hancocks books and I think if Keeper of Genesis has been updated to include the opening of the door in the pyramid then go for that one. Fingerprints of the Gods is OK too, if bulky.

[Tom_Wescott]

Thanks, Steje. I don't know what Keeper of Genesis is about, but I'll check it out.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Magpie]

I'm surprised to see Magpie calling Graham Hancock an ***hole (I read his Ark book and wasn't drawn to that conclusion) and Maria calling his conclusions silly. Perhaps some are (I've not read much of his work), but I must say the man has reasoning powers and knowledge the likes of which are sorely lacking in most fields of theory, including our very own. Can Mike Covell or anyone else who hasn't written off Graham Hancock as an ***hole recommend any other of his books?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

P.S. Shouldn't this thread be called 'Recently Read Books and Conventions Attended'?

Tom...I'm basing it on the "climax" of his journey when he infiltrates a sacred ceremony by deceit and then after he's chased off he sneaks back into their Holy of Holies and defiles the most sacred object of their faith and then acts like he's done something noble and scholarly. That left a real sour taste in my mouth--especially from someone who is writing in the particular field Hancock's writing in.

Up until that point I was really impressed with his research and some of his conclusions.

[Tom_Wescott]

I owe you an apology as I was mistaken. I have NOT read his Ark book, but instead I've read his Holy Grail book, where he goes on his adventure with the leader of the band Air Supply. From what I remember reading, NOBODY has gotten into the chamber where the Ark is purportedly kept in Ethiopia. I wish somebody would get in there so we'd know if it's really there or not, and whatever else is in there. I guess Graham and I are more curious than you!

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott