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[Sam Flynn]

Oh no, Sam's started on his podiatry again. Hide your schitz's!!!

Dinnae fret, Tam! There's nae umlauts in Scoats or Welsh

[Maria]

I believe it refers to the whole of Britain, Maria - indeed, the name is preserved in the Welsh word for Scotland, which is "Alban".

Gareth.

O.K. then.

- Maria

[Doctor X]

Hancock doesn´t have anything to do with Velikovsky !!!

You cited both and they behaved similarly.

Graham Hancock´s work relates to cities or continents which have been sunk under the sea.

It continues to fail, yes.

You said Hancock is a cranck I disagree with you. Hancock is not a crank.

You have been given clear evidence otherwise which, for some reason, you have ignored.

In my past examples I have shown you what most people know to be true as we happen to be living it.

You have shown me fallacy.

Reality is that, as Philip K. Dick quips, which when you cease believing in it, will not go away. Appealing to a crank like Hancock is irrelevant to reality.

It is a bit like the Ripper: I can appeal, as you have, to your conception of popularity and declare that "most people know to be true" that the Masons and Queen Victoria conspired to kill prostitutes in Whitechapel.

You can then show me the evidence that this simply is not true.

I then have two choices: I can evaluate your evidence and either rebut or accept it, or I can retreat into a corner and try to pretend it does not exist.

You now have that choice.

--J.D.

[Doctor X]

Flood legends seem to be rather ubiquitous, JD, and some seem to share a common origin -

Yes . . . and no.

Flooding is a rather common human experience, a bit like fire and disappointing first dates. All generate myth.

You definitely do not want to celebrate your girlfriend's capture in the underworld--in her apartment--if she happens to be a goddess!

Nevertheless, my question was more to one who appeals to the myths representing a historical reality--since they were cited as such.

Therefore, which one?

Incidentally, you may find it interesting that the Noah version is two separate myths "stitched" together. I prefer the earlier version, of course, but then I enjoy freshly made bread. . . .

--J.D.

[The Good Michael]

But having said that... The ancient Celts lived in Cornwall as well as in Wales.

The ancient Celts lived in central Europe which is evinced by the La Tene and Halstatt cultures, and possibly the Beaker people. Ireland was probably settled first, and then Britain, though the P-Celt and Q-Celt argument still continues. Regardless, they are both products of later settlement and are not so ancient.

Mike

[plang]

As to lothian, rather would not consider a brythonic connection. Utanapishtim related to alban is a possibility.Velikovsky has no relation to the case as far as Handcock's plausabillity.The connection between Arthurian podiatry is rather umbiquitous.

[Doctor X]

[Butthead]Huh . . . huh . . . you said . . . "handcock!"[/Butthead]

--J.D.

[plang]

Glad you can see through the irony, Doc.

[Doctor X]

I am, if anything, precise.

--J.D.

[plang]

ooh, precise are we? about what Doc? Does it matter?

[Doctor X]

That would be telling. . . .

--J. "Information! INforMAtion!" D.

[Maria]

Mike and Gareth:

Have you ever heard about the ancient forest of Borth which disappeared a million years ago under the sea ?

Borth is not far away from where I live, and on a low tide, you can still see some of these ancient trees fossilised and protruding from the sand. They have turned into stone.

Another legend which I like very much is Robin Hood, we have been to the forest of Sherwood and the tree in which he used to live is still there today, its an ancient oak. Some twenty years ago, it had treatment which involved drilling down near the roots of the tree, because it was dying and nutrients were not getting through since the earth around it had compacted like cement. I don´t know in the end if the tree survived or not.

- Maria

[Maria]

The submerged forest of Borth

Mike, Gareth, Graham:

Well the dates of the forest vary. Sometimes I like to walk around there. Here is the link:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/mid/sites/coast/pages/5.shtml

https://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/mid/sites/borth/

Gareth... this is what you were talking about Cantre´r Gwaelod ! on the first url they show a clip ! The second url just shows the different features in Borth, including the forest which I have placed above.

[Doctor X]

Last I looked, there were two towns/hamlets/those-places-in-England-where-people-live-without-central-heating that were fighting over who had Robin's birthplace . . . or death-place.

Which reminds me of my favorite legend. . . .

Sherwood Forrest grew sad as Robin lay dying. His Merry Men gathered around him. He asked that the window be open so that he could gaze upon his belov'd Sherwood one last time. . . .

He then summoned his best bow and truest arrow. He knocked the arrow and proclaimed, "where this should land, bury me!"











. . . so they buried him on top of the closet.

--J.D.

[Graham]

[QUOTE=Doctor X;12948]Last I looked, there were two towns/hamlets/those-places-in-England-where-people-live-without-central-heating that were fighting over who had Robin's birthplace . . . or death-place.

Which reminds me of my favorite legend. . . .

Sherwood Forrest grew sad as Robin lay dying. His Merry Men gathered around him. He asked that the window be open so that he could gaze upon his belov'd Sherwood one last time. . . .

He then summoned his best bow and truest arrow. He knocked the arrow and proclaimed, "where this should land, bury me!"

Doctor,

1] Robin Hood was actually a black man from the jungles of West Africa. The nearest he ever got to Sherwood Forest was Piccadilly, Manchester. He liked a good hot curry but really wasn't all that bothered about robbing and stuff like that. He thought King Richard was a white honkie faggot.

2] He never died. He lives on. When England is in danger, he will reappear.

3] Central heating: my dad, who lived to be 109, said that the only time in his life he was ever warm was when the house next door was fire-bombed by the Luftwaffe during the Blitz, and he and his family went round to warm their hands at the embers. He wrote a personal letter of thanks to Hitler. Who in fact replied. My dad was released in 1992.

Apart from that, not much to add, really.

Graham