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  • I thought this thread was called: " On The Trail of The Forgers " the diary is a fake. Keith lied when he said he had some evidence, if he REALLY had that evidence, anyone with a grain of common sense would see that he would have produced it by now, trumpeted in all the newspapers in the land and shown it at the Liverpool Trial.

    It is a WHOLE year now and this " evidence " has not been produced because it simply does not exist. And you know people why it doesn´t exist ? Because the diary is not an old forgery but a RECENT forgery, that is why. Anything else are just fabricated lies. Keith is a liar.

    This exchange is frankly irritating and POINTLESS. Haven´t you people got better things to do ?

    Maria

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    • Actually John,

      Keith did in fact say that in the email that he sent to you. The email exchange that you posted on these boards with a song and a dance that you were doing something daring or outre by publishing the emails in full (after promising to send the entire exchange in private) when it was in fact Keith himself who suggested you post the entire exchange.

      Ally suggested that I should not have said anything at Liverpool about my information and - in retrospect - she is correct. So are you. Which was why, when I was preparing my presentation, I avoided any reference to this part of the investigation which is still ongoing and you have characterised as secret squirrel. The question from the floor - after the presentation -demanded an honest response which I gave. I could not go any further without compromising the investigation. I am not prepared to say who is financing it but the results will be eventually
      published.
      He said he can't say more and he said the results will be published. If you want him to make a simple declarative statement to satisfy your sense of what he ought to say and exactly how he needs to say it to satisfy you, well I am sure that in Keith's position, I'd just tell you to go screw yourself.

      Let all Oz be agreed;
      I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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      • One other thought...

        Keith wrote to me that he might have been more forthcoming in his response to my questions if I hadn't already pissed him off years ago.

        He said this:

        "This response to your email of course will not satisfy you but if you had shown yourself more willing to work with me, four years ago, trying to determine what went wrong with the McCrone Group - and possibly it had something to do with you realising that this type of operation is extremely time consuming and expensive and you'd rather delegate the responsibility to somebody else - then I might have been more forthcoming."

        So clearly there is more information about this that he is willing to tell everyone -- he just doesn't want to tell me.

        I hope Ally's queries, then, prompt the "more forthcoming" explanations he was unwilling to give me.

        --John

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        • Ally,

          We cross posted. Yes, I did read that and I have heard the vague "ongoing investigation" talk for many many years. But it explains nothing.

          I hope something clearer and at least a little more precise is offered to you.

          --John

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          • I am sure anyone with a brain would understand that his offer to share would have been predicated upon an agreement not to post the information prior to its publication.

            Something you, with your lofty principles would not ever agree to, right?

            Let all Oz be agreed;
            I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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            • That's fine, Ally.

              --John

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              • Hi Caz,

                "This testing proposal required a certain formula of Diamine ink which was not available from any source, and even if its maker had been willing or able to make some up (he wasn’t)....."

                Could you possibly remind me whether Alec Voller was technically unable to make-up a sample of the relevant Diamine ink, or whether he was was personally unwilling to? I'm asking without bias, either way.



                Love,
                Callyphygian

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                • Ink Shrink

                  Howdy Troopers,
                  I would just like to remind you of the facts about the ink
                  which I have already spoken about previously.
                  Steven Park had a bottle of pre-1940 ink
                  that was given to him by an old printing man in Sydney.
                  When he began to worry about the dwindling quantity,
                  he mixed other components with it.
                  He seemed quite knowledgeable with ink at this stage
                  and said that some parts of the diary are written
                  with the old ink and some with the blended.
                  He said that no-one would be able to prove
                  one way or the other if it was the genuine article,
                  as some would say it was 'old' and others 'new',
                  depending on where they took the sample.
                  It would be a dispute that could only go in circles.
                  He knew that.

                  Steve Powell

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                  • Keith refused to elaborate on or provide any more information regarding the "evidence". He says he does not have any idea when the information will be published.

                    Let all Oz be agreed;
                    I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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                    • He,he,he,he,he,

                      That is because it does not exist and he lied at the " Trial " confident that people would take his word as an " expert " These days people are lazy, they do not use their mind nor their common sense. They just expect their answers from somone else who is vetted as an " expert "

                      At this stage, I do not believe a word Keith Skinner has ever written anywhere to sell his books. He tried to cajole his idea into an impossible. ie. make the " evidence " fit into: "coming from Battlecrease " But it did not come from Battlecrease because we know its a fake and not the work of James Maybrick

                      But those out there, with less common sense that god gave to a chicken, are still looking for the " Battlecrease connection " with their Guru Keith Skinner who BTW is a lousy researcher.

                      Just as the Spanish-Arab philosopher Espinoza once said: Common Sense, is the least Common of the Senses !

                      If anyone wants to see a real good researcher tune in BBC at 9 A.M. every day in the mornings and you will see Peter in action.

                      Maria
                      Last edited by Maria; 08-07-2008, 02:37 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by Maria View Post
                        and you will see Peter in action.
                        Didn't I see that line in Boogie Nights?


                        Mike
                        huh?

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                        • Mike:

                          What do you mean ? Peter is my husband, I was refering that programme he is on T.V. at the moment. The BBC has commissioned the third series of " Heir Hunters " Where Peter my son and yours truly will be appearing. The filming starts next month and on Wednesday we will have a meeting with the producers in Shropshire of all places ( where I can pick-up your cheese ).

                          Apparently the viewing is quite high so this made them make a third series. Only thing, we will be losing our privacy for a few months as the cameras follow us all over the place from the crack of dawn. Pray for me !

                          Maria

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                          • Maria,

                            It was just a joke about... I'm too much of a gentleman to explain it. Yet, I was ungentlemanly enough when I posted it. Oh, dear! What a conundrum.

                            Mike
                            huh?

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                            • Mike:

                              Now you have to explain. Explain, explain...

                              I´m not letting you go that easily Mike.

                              Maria

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                              • Mike:

                                You have sort of apologized and have had a bit of fun at my expense.. I´m too innocent for this sort of thing... but Peter has... well... you know.

                                I´m not cheesed off with you yet, honestly.

                                Maria

                                P.S. Peter just came in and the client he just saw recognized him from the show and she said to him... " What a handsome son you have ! " to which he replied: " Wait till you see his mother " then he added: " She did not say anything about me " Awww...

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