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  • Hi Victoria,

    If Steve can write well, I have to wonder why he has chosen not to demonstrate his talent here.

    I also have to wonder why you don't see it as dobbing on his best mate to get a book published which presumably aims to prove the accusations he has made here against him. And it wasn't just what Steve was 'told' by his best mate; it's also everything he claims to have witnessed with his own eyes, like the watch minus its Maybrick/Ripper engravings being shown to him before disappearing into another room with Park and emerging later with all the markings in situ. That's not something Steve could have conveniently forgotten until years after the flipping JtR tour and three or four diary books had been published featuring detailed descriptions of the watch.

    I'm afraid Steve only has himself to blame for all the disbelief surrounding his stories. If I were to accept any of them at face value, just because you think he should be given a break, I might as well start believing Mike Barrett too, without insisting on some visible means of support.

    If that sounds blunt, it's just a taste of what will come from better commentators than me if someone buys Steve's book and it turns out to be full of the provable twaddle he talks here.

    Love,

    Caz
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    Last edited by caz; 04-07-2009, 01:16 PM.
    "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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    • Caz,

      I understand that you knew Mr. Feldman quite well. Is that correct?
      If so, and knowing that you think Steve's story is pretty much nonsense, was Feldman capable of such deceit? I mean, was he intellectually able to pull enough strings to create a huge lie? This is in general, of course, and not necessarily about the diary hoax. If you feel you would be disparaging against a deceased friend, I understand. It's just that this whole criminal mastermind thing doesn't seem plausible to me.

      Cheers,

      Mike
      huh?

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      • Hi Good Michael,

        Contrary to what some people think I didn't know Feldy 'quite well' at all. I only met him once when we interviewed him for Ripper Diary [which he loathed incidentally ]. I didn't take to him at all, finding him overbearing and opinionated. But he did strike me as being 100% sincere in his beliefs - perhaps because he just couldn't grasp why anyone would not share his own enthusiasm unless they had some hidden personal agenda. It was as naïve and uncomplicated as that in the end, as far as I could see.

        There is no reason why anyone should take my word for it though. One reason for his own involvement in the creation of either artefact being so utterly implausible is that it was obvious to some of those who worked closely with him, or in competition with him, right from his early Druitt days and throughout his Maybrick years until he finally burned all his boats and burned himself out into the bargain with his tireless attempts to prove himself right that he was deceiving himself first, and these people were not similarly deceived by his notions of 'evidence'. They'd have been out like a shot if they thought for one second during all that time that the man was so unhinged that he had allowed himself to be deceived so thoroughly (and to suffer the breakdown of his marriage, health and finances) by a deception of his own making.

        Nobody who did know Feldy 'quite well' would give such an idea the time of day.

        Love,

        Caz
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        "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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        • ...Hi Caz...

          My simple point being...

          Who gives a **** about any of the rest of it, since the whole thing is a hoax...Since it is a hoax, none of the rest of it will ever matter....
          Cheers,
          cappuccina

          "Don't make me get my flying monkeys!"

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          • ...It's kind of like wasting one's time giving a **** about which person has written "Zorro was here" on the public bathroom stall wall...
            Cheers,
            cappuccina

            "Don't make me get my flying monkeys!"

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            • Caz or Baz?

              Gee's Caroline,
              What a pain in the arse you are.

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              • Originally posted by cappuccina View Post
                ...Hi Caz...

                My simple point being...

                Who gives a **** about any of the rest of it, since the whole thing is a hoax...Since it is a hoax, none of the rest of it will ever matter....
                And my equally simple point, dear Capps, would be that Stevie Baby ain't listening to you. He does give a **** and he's listening to me and I'm making his arse sore.

                I win hands down I think.

                Love,

                Caz
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                Last edited by caz; 04-14-2009, 01:37 PM.
                "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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                • The cover up Caz!

                  I listen to everyones view here Caroline.It's you that I can't relate to
                  and you must know why don't you?
                  You are friends and a co-writer with Keith Skinner,
                  one of those who knew from the beginning that the diary
                  was a hoax, and don't write back with bloody disbelief on this.
                  I believe that you must know the relevant facts about Skinners involvement
                  and that you are trying like hell to keep me from gaining any ground in the truth dept.
                  In your co-written book with Skinner you called me a time waster
                  and that to me, was the end for you dearie.
                  (Unless you are a complete fool and don't know the facts)
                  I also believe you are here solely to try and destroy my views in any way you can.
                  If you would like to post me a private message on these and other facts,
                  please do so, but don't keep on with your tiresome attacks upon me
                  for the troopers benefits.
                  I would love to think that you are open minded, but its very hard, in fact, almost impossible.
                  So I say to all you troopers here, Caroline Morris must know the truth
                  that the diary is a hoax and is part of the cover-up!

                  Steve Powell

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                  • You know. I am having a bad day and it's only 7 am. And when I am having a bad day, my usual bitch factor of 10 tends to hit 100.

                    So Powell, before I hit Report Post and report you for slander, I am going to give you an opportunity to correct yourself.

                    Are you now claiming, with no evidence whatsoever to back that statement up, that Keith skinner was involved in hoaxing the diary?

                    Let all Oz be agreed;
                    I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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                    • Hi Stevie Baby,

                      Not sure what you mean by 'trying like hell to keep me from gaining any ground in the truth dept'. How exactly have I been preventing you from telling the truth? Talk about a man blaming a woman for his own shortcomings.

                      Your 'views' of course would be a very different matter, because views are things one has in the absence of knowing the truth, and you do more than I ever could to 'destroy' them.

                      I think you have got things backwards because Keith has never claimed the diary isn't a hoax and he and everyone else could see from the beginning that it certainly wasn't in the recognised hand of JM, and any attempt to cover that up would have got us both a one-way ticket to the funny farm before you appeared on the scene with your funny little claims.

                      I'm happy to discuss anything you want right here in the open, so no, I have no desire to post you 'a private message' of any sort.

                      But if I knew the truth about who wrote the diary, when and why, and could prove it (as you appear to believe) what would I be needing to keep an open mind for? Father Christmas? I'd have been straight onto my agent, securing a commission to write the book you keep claiming has already been written by your good self, telling the ultimate, final, complete, case closed, true face of the diary and my part in its downfall - for the benefit of everyone who has ever been touched in any way, positive or negative, by the damned thing.

                      Love,

                      Caz
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                      "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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                      • England Shirley

                        Howdy Shirley,
                        Nice to hear from you here on the 'trail'.
                        You have asked my publisher on several occasions for any information on the details of my upcoming book,
                        unfortunately, as he has told you, any info that you seek
                        cannot be had at the moment as that would go against the rules of publishing.
                        I'm sure you know this as you yourself did the same with your book on the matter.
                        As much as I would like to talk to you about the case,
                        I simply can't at the moment but will do so freely after its release.
                        And in fact I am looking forward to talking with you about it.
                        But let's not leave the troopers with nothing shall we?
                        Let me ask you a couple of questions while you're here.
                        A: Just who was it that told the ripperologist fraternity that Feldman was dead? And was he buried or cremated?
                        I would like to hear an answer to this simple question if you would.
                        And here's another to keep the troopers on the ball.
                        B: Did you attend the funeral of Robbie Johnson? And was he buried or cremated?
                        Simple questions in all. Nothing that needs to be held secret in any way.
                        But as far as I go, you will have to do the same thing I did when I bought your book: buy mine.
                        Best regards to you Shirley.

                        Steve Powell.

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                        • Steve,

                          You didn't really think you'd get away with just avoiding it did you? See, I remember when you were trying to decide who to frame for your book and you made a little comment about both Rumbelow and Feldman as you couldn't quite "remember" who had done it, and then when everyone jumped your ass about Rumbelow, you conveniently "remembered" it was Feldman.

                          And now you are doing the same thing to Skinner. The fact that you have refused to clarify means you are in fact accusing Skinner of having something to do with the Diary forgery. Who next? Stewart Evans? Slimebag.

                          Let all Oz be agreed;
                          I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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                          • The slimebag slithers back

                            You, a moderator of this casebook should call me a 'slimebag!'
                            What a nerve you have 'possum.'
                            As far as 'trying to decide who to frame for your book';
                            you are trying to deliberately sway the troopers here with your own
                            slag presumptions.
                            I've known all along just who the forgers, hoaxers and liars are,
                            so don't come the raw prawn with me on that.
                            get a life and report me if you like,
                            that is the only 'power' you have, dingbat.
                            And don't bother answering me as I'm sick of hearing from you!

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                            • Where's Shirley?

                              Shirley? Surely you haven't run away from my questions have you?
                              Has somebody told you to not answer those simple questions from me?
                              I wonder who that could be - as if I didn't know.
                              Or are you just too busy or can't quite work out how to use the computer?
                              Come on Shirley, you can at least answer me.

                              Steve Powell

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                              • That's right Steve,

                                You are a total freaking slime bag. You invented a complete hoax about a hoax to sell it and make money. You lied when you said you found a publisher interested in your story. You are publishing through a vanity press that would publish any trite piece of crap as long as someone paid them to do it.

                                You slander every single person involved tangentially to the Diary and offer NOTHING not one single shred of evidence. Your "memory" of events changes every time the wind blows.

                                You are a liar and your book is a bigger hoax than the Diary ever was or could be. At least the people who hoaxed the diary didn't slander their former friends and drag their name through the mud in their selfish pathetic attempt to be famous and make money.

                                Slimebag.

                                Let all Oz be agreed;
                                I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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