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  • djw
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    Harrimans book gets name checked in this new precis https://www.history.co.uk/articles/w...cent-or-guilty Without subscribing to Sky I wonder if there is a way I could watch this? Do Sky documentaries end on a pay per programme service? Like Now TV?

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  • moste
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    Originally posted by Sherlock Houses View Post

    Spot on.

    I can confirm, Moste, from my friend Malachy, that Roger Matthews passed away during 2023.
    Ok . Thanks for that SH.

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  • Sherlock Houses
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    Originally posted by moste View Post
    Doesnât look like she is particularly interested in the Hanratty case, just rolling the blogs off the assembly line !
    Spot on.

    I can confirm, Moste, from my friend Malachy, that Roger Matthews passed away during 2023.
    Last edited by Sherlock Houses; 04-21-2024, 09:51 AM.

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  • moste
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    Originally posted by Sherlock Houses View Post


    Thanks for the link DJW. I watched about 23 minutes of this youtube video and discovered about 15 innaccuracies aside from all the assumptions the female presenter makes.
    This unnecessary carelessness misleads people not familiar with the case. I don't know how many further mistakes she makes in the remaining 55 minutes
    as I didn't have the patience or inclination to watch any further.
    Ditto.. I sent her a comment ,since she asked for opinions, I stated ‘not guilty’ and my reasons why. Then I asked if she could attempt to have Chief Superintendent Roger Mathews’s full report released into the public domain . She was negative about this and suggested I do it. (LOL) Doesn’t look like she is particularly interested in the Hanratty case, just rolling the blogs off the assembly line !

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  • Sherlock Houses
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    Originally posted by djw View Post
    A youtube video uploaded ten days ago by Eryberrie goes into at least the sort of depth the Eccleston documentary should be aiming at https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o9BqwBDUfPI

    Thanks for the link DJW. I watched about 23 minutes of this youtube video and discovered about 15 innaccuracies aside from all the assumptions the female presenter makes.
    This unnecessary carelessness misleads people not familiar with the case. I don't know how many further mistakes she makes in the remaining 55 minutes
    as I didn't have the patience or inclination to watch any further.

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  • djw
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    The Guilty Innocent starts Tuesday 14 May https://www.history.co.uk/shows/the-...pher-eccleston

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  • djw
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    A youtube video uploaded ten days ago by Eryberrie goes into at least the sort of depth the Eccleston documentary should be aiming at https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o9BqwBDUfPI

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  • Sherlock Houses
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    Originally posted by moste View Post
    Roger Matthews obituary In the Guardian from . April 2020 .
    Wonder if this is our guy?
    As far as I'm led to believe Moste, Roger Matthews passed away sometime between 2022 and 2023. I could be mistaken of course.

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  • Sherlock Houses
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    Originally posted by djw View Post
    The pages of the Hawser Report missing from the above images (thanks SH) have been obtained and placed (in order) in a PDF you can access at https://archive.org/details/hawser-report

    Christopher Eccleston's documentary will be titled 'The Guilty Innocent' according to https://www.televisual.com/news/chri...ocent-for-sky/
    I don't know how many copies of the report were printed DJW but it's remarkable that the copy which I bought [about 9 years ago] should happen to be the exact same copy that was uploaded [by whoever] onto the Internet Archive website.

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  • djw
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    The pages of the Hawser Report missing from the above images (thanks SH) have been obtained and placed (in order) in a PDF you can access at https://archive.org/details/hawser-report

    Christopher Eccleston's documentary will be titled 'The Guilty Innocent' according to https://www.televisual.com/news/chri...ocent-for-sky/

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  • moste
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    If it is him, he was a very busy man to all accounts ,with his involvement in post career criminology. Writing books and so forth. Since it was a death from corvid and therefor not sudden, I wonder if it crossed his mind to have someone release his report into public domain.

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  • moste
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    Roger Matthews obituary In the Guardian from . April 2020 .
    Wonder if this is our guy?
    Last edited by moste; 04-12-2024, 02:01 AM.

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  • cobalt
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    It certainly would be helpful to read Mrs. Lanz's second statement, from March 1962, in full. DCS Matthews would have been able to do so as part of his investigation and it may be he reached a different conclusion after reading it than did Lewis Hawser, QC. For Hawser's synopsis of this statement seems at odds with itself.

    At [376] in his report, Hawser states that Mrs. Lanz's police statement was 'along the same lines' as what she stated to Paul Foot in an interview which was published in July 1971. In that article Mrs. Lanz claimed that Peter Alphon (obviously unknown to her at that time) had been in her premises, The Station Inn, on the evening of the murder in the company of a blond woman. Mrs. Lanz further claimed that she had voluntarily gone to Slough Police Station to inform the authorities of this fact.

    However Hawser states at [376 (c)] that Mrs. Lanz said no such thing in her statement: that she never mentioned Alphon being there at that specific time nor did she mention a blond haired woman. Indeed he quotes selectively from her statement to suggest that Mrs. Lanz was uncertain about both Alphon and the times he had visited her premises.

    For me, this throws up two issues. Why did Hawser claim that Mrs. Lanz's statement was 'along the same lines' as her interview with Paul Foot when it seriously diverges on the matter of identification and time, never mind any blond companion. This is not my understanding of the phrase 'along the same lines.' Secondly, Mrs. Lanz took the trouble to approach the police with what she must have believed was important information yet according to Hawser she offered nothing concrete whatsoever. There must be more in her statement than what Hawser considered relevant to be divulged.

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  • moste
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    We have no way of knowing if all of Mary Lanz’s statement to the police was released.and since she wasn’t a witness in court…I would go with her 1971 statement myself.

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  • moste
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    Hawser maintained’ In fact the murder weapon had no safety catch’. Interesting that Storie maintained,’ I asked the assailant what the clicking noise was, and he answered it’s the safety catch I’m switching on and off’. So many ambiguities.

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