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I attach a link to an article that links John McInnes to the infamous Bible John murders in 1960's Glasgow.
I also attach 2 posts that I made on a thread dealing with the Zodiac case (yes we wandered a bit of topic, but hey ho) which dealt with Mcinnes's possible involvement in the murders.
My First Post
Hi Abby, I'll try and keep this brief, in the knowledge that I'm off topic here.
One of the police suspects at the time was an ex-soldier called John Macinnes, it is not known why he was suspected.
McInnes committed suicide in 1980 by cutting an artery in his upper arm.
In the 1990's McInnnes's body was exhumed in an attempt to compare his DNA with semen stains found on one of the victims, Helen Puttock.
From memory, his body was exhumed because DNA from one of McInnes's relatives showed many points of comparison with the semen stains recovered from one of the victims.
Unfortunately his body was so corrupted that no meaningful comparison could be made.
The official report on the DNA comparison attempt stated, "There is not sufficient evidence for the current DNA information to link John McInnes to the murder of Helen Puttock." (my emphasis)
Other factors linking McInnes to the murders is that a disheveled and muddied man with scratches on his face was seen getting off a bus in Sauchiehall Street in the centre of Glasgow.
McInnes had an aunt who lived in Sauchiehall Street.
Bible John had a military bearing.
John McInnes was in the army.
Both Bible John and McInnes were smokers.
Bible John spoke of hitting a hole in one on the golf course.
John McInnes hasd scored a hole in one.
So that's about it!
No firm evidence that would convict in the court of public opinion, but I find the DNA factors in this case to be highly indicative.
My Second Post
Hi Herlock, to my knowledge, no book has seriously expressed McInnes as a prime suspect.
I think that thgere are 2-3 books on the case, but none of them are what could be called definitive.
One thing that is striking about the case is the way that the Police kept their theories very close to their chest.
There were few, if any, leaks that emanated from the police.
McInnes did end up on an identity parade, but the witness didn't pick him out.
One final thing that I was hesitant to mention in my original post is that I had a very good Police friend who was high up in the serious crime squad.
He was involved in the investigations of most of the major murders and gang related violence in Glasgow.
My friend was the model of circumspection if anyone tried to pump him for info re any high profile crimes.
He took me aside one day in the pub and asked if I could provide him with a full copy of the Voters Roll for Glasgow.
He explained that there was a leak within the serious crime squad, and he needed a copy of the Voters Roll that he could use privately.
I managed to get him a not too old copy of the Voters Roll.
It was never spoken of again.
After that I think that he knew that I was someone he could talk to who wouldn't betray any confidences
One day in the pub a group of us must have been talking about the Bible John case, various theories were put forward and the discussion bounced back and
forth, with my friend saying nothing, until he closed the discussion with the words "It was McInnes".
I appreciate that by putting this out there I'm entering the realms of "possibly true but possibly hearsay" that dogs so much of meaningful discissions of cases like Bible John, but it's all true.
Link
I also attach 2 posts that I made on a thread dealing with the Zodiac case (yes we wandered a bit of topic, but hey ho) which dealt with Mcinnes's possible involvement in the murders.
My First Post
Hi Abby, I'll try and keep this brief, in the knowledge that I'm off topic here.
One of the police suspects at the time was an ex-soldier called John Macinnes, it is not known why he was suspected.
McInnes committed suicide in 1980 by cutting an artery in his upper arm.
In the 1990's McInnnes's body was exhumed in an attempt to compare his DNA with semen stains found on one of the victims, Helen Puttock.
From memory, his body was exhumed because DNA from one of McInnes's relatives showed many points of comparison with the semen stains recovered from one of the victims.
Unfortunately his body was so corrupted that no meaningful comparison could be made.
The official report on the DNA comparison attempt stated, "There is not sufficient evidence for the current DNA information to link John McInnes to the murder of Helen Puttock." (my emphasis)
Other factors linking McInnes to the murders is that a disheveled and muddied man with scratches on his face was seen getting off a bus in Sauchiehall Street in the centre of Glasgow.
McInnes had an aunt who lived in Sauchiehall Street.
Bible John had a military bearing.
John McInnes was in the army.
Both Bible John and McInnes were smokers.
Bible John spoke of hitting a hole in one on the golf course.
John McInnes hasd scored a hole in one.
So that's about it!
No firm evidence that would convict in the court of public opinion, but I find the DNA factors in this case to be highly indicative.
My Second Post
Hi Herlock, to my knowledge, no book has seriously expressed McInnes as a prime suspect.
I think that thgere are 2-3 books on the case, but none of them are what could be called definitive.
One thing that is striking about the case is the way that the Police kept their theories very close to their chest.
There were few, if any, leaks that emanated from the police.
McInnes did end up on an identity parade, but the witness didn't pick him out.
One final thing that I was hesitant to mention in my original post is that I had a very good Police friend who was high up in the serious crime squad.
He was involved in the investigations of most of the major murders and gang related violence in Glasgow.
My friend was the model of circumspection if anyone tried to pump him for info re any high profile crimes.
He took me aside one day in the pub and asked if I could provide him with a full copy of the Voters Roll for Glasgow.
He explained that there was a leak within the serious crime squad, and he needed a copy of the Voters Roll that he could use privately.
I managed to get him a not too old copy of the Voters Roll.
It was never spoken of again.
After that I think that he knew that I was someone he could talk to who wouldn't betray any confidences
One day in the pub a group of us must have been talking about the Bible John case, various theories were put forward and the discussion bounced back and
forth, with my friend saying nothing, until he closed the discussion with the words "It was McInnes".
I appreciate that by putting this out there I'm entering the realms of "possibly true but possibly hearsay" that dogs so much of meaningful discissions of cases like Bible John, but it's all true.
Link
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