University of Idaho Stabbings

[Pcdunn]

The Dr Phil program this afternoon was interesting, and will have a second part tomorrow afternoon. He had guest experts to discuss the case with, including a forensic pathologist and a former FBI agent.

I found the body cam footage of when BK and his father were stopped by police interesting. I didn't know there were two stops, though. That must have played with the suspect's head!

One thing I didn't know about was that he posted a Reddit survey aimed at convicted murderers asking them how they planned their "goals" and inquiring for details as to their "thoughts and feelings" at each step of their progress toward their "goals." Apparently this was supposed to be part of his research as a criminology student, but...! As one journalist asked Phil, "Is this some kind of sick social experiment?" I think if BK is a sociopath, he'd be interested in how he should think and feel when killing a petson.

Tomorrow they will delve into the suspect's childhood as a bullied student, and also look at a possible connection between BK and Dennis Rader. Rader's daughter states this suspect was studying her dad's career as the BTK serial killer.

[Ally]

There are two different scenarios that are possible.

Scenario A) The one that you proposed -that the murders arose out of a social experiment, purely objectively from his studies. A dispassionate game from a clinical, psychopathic objective. The "How to create the perfect murder game" gone to far, done purely to see if he could get away with it, without any real compulsion to commit murder, beyond seeing if he could succeed.

Scenario B) That he was predisposed to homicidal impulses, he had an urge to kill this specific victim type, and his studies arose from this predisposition and an attempt to find a way to indulge his interests and get away with them. He was looking for a way to calculate the variables, mitigate the risks and avoid capture. Obviously, he failed as you cannot predict how you will respond in a real world stress and adrenaline-fueled state, until you are actually in it. Which any halfway decent student of human nature should have known.

With the bare biographical sketch we have of him, I lean towards scenario B, however, if he's convicted, I suspect he will put forth scenario A, as that makes him seem more ... "cool" (that is SO not the right word, but how he would want to be viewed as more in control of his nature than he is). I lean more towards scenario B, because if the objective was just to commit any murder and get away with it, there were far easier and less sensational targets than a house of multiple college students. I feel he had a *need* to kill that victim type. And therefore it's not just a dispassionate game.

I also think that while the more likely scenario is that he did not see the surviving witness, if he is convicted, and if he ever talks, he will say he saw her and chose to spare her. When in fact, he just made another mistake. He will attempt to make his actions seem more calculating than they were.

All just random musings, and as likely to be proven wrong with evidence as any other musing at this stage, of course.

[Pcdunn]

The second Dr Phil episode on the suspect in the stabbing murders aired this past week. He apparently was an overweight kid who was targeted by bullies, but made a dramatic change as a high school senior. He dropped a lot of weight, apparently turned vegetarian, started talking of wanting a police or military career, and developed an interest in criminology.

Classmates from his college courses state he always wanted to show off how smart he was, and to dominate discussions.
Yet a local bar told him he had to stop asking women customers and staff there "do you live alone?" upon first approaching them. He did not seem to realize what a very creepy pick-up line that is, in this day and age.

Denis Rader's daughter said Bryan K. had taken a course from a woman who had extensively interviewed her dad about his career as the Bind Torture Kill murderer.
The daughter also said she recognized similar details between them: both 28 when they started killing, both killed four people in their first assault, and others.

There was talk about the mistakes Bryan K. seemed to have made, and speculation his defense would say "my client is too intelligent to have done such a sloppy job as this!"

His knowledge of the "party house" layout and how he seemed familiar with it was discussed. He might have attended on a party night, as just a drop in guest, not invited. Or maybe visited when the occupants were out, perhaps hid in a closet for awhile until it was quiet, then walked around and slipped out.

I hope they don't try to say he had help from anyone in the house. That would be too sad.

They talked about his walking past the girl who was awake and didn't seem to see her. Maybe he really didn't if she was frozen in place, or maybe he was satisfied from killing four people already. I think if he was trying to recreate Rader's first mass murder, he needed to stop at four, so he ignored the other woman.

[Pcdunn]

Idaho Murders Suspect Felt ‘No Emotion’ and ‘Little Remorse’ as a Teen https://nyti.ms/3kcxa2m

Apparently Bryan K. had a troubled teen life, including drug use and feeling detached from the world around him, including his family. I wonder if he became interested in the criminal mind in an effort to understand himself --or because he felt he fit in with them.

[Abby Normal]

well it appears he was targeting and stalking at least one of the victims...he was trying to message her on instagram repeatedly. but it will be interesting to find out how he found out where she lived.

[Pcdunn]

University Investigated Idaho Murder Suspect’s Behavior Around Time of Killings https://nyti.ms/3IhupGC

[Pcdunn]

For people who get the American true-crime channel ID, there will be a special on the University of Idaho stabbings. I know it is this month (March, 2023) but I'm not certain of the day. Possibly next week or the week after.

Try checking their schedule online. Apparently the first tv documentary about these murders.

[Pcdunn]

^ It is coming up on ID Channel, Sunday March 12, 2023.

Correct title is: "The Idaho College Murders: A Special Event" and is looking at the evidence and facts in the case.