kennedy assassination

[jimornot?]

Hi Rick,

I see where you're coming from, but the idea that there were 2 shooters operating totally independently, and at precisely the same time, beggars belief.

And I was always under the impression that the Mannlicher found at the TSBD could not be made to fire the requisite number of shots in the requisite time.

Finally - how often have you heard a car backfire??

Graham

hi Graham

late to this, sorry.

I recall seeing a documentary in which someone was filmed using the actual (???) rifle and meeting the shot / time deadline with a little time to spare.

I think it is telling that some people apparently ran towards the grassy knoll after the shooting - why would they do that?

atb

viv

[sdreid]

Yes, the idea that unarmed people would run at what they thought was a hostile man with a loaded firearm is ridiculous. Those people are arguing against their own case. Jackie would have been hit if the shot had come from the right which is where the grassy knoll is and where's the exit wound on the left side of the President's head? Zapruder was close to in line with the knoll when the head shot hit and from the angle you see in the film it would have entered almost directly into the side of Kennedy's head.

[Gman992]

Well, Oswald was a Marine, trained in ambushing targets. If he shot JFK when he was coming towards the Book Depository, everyone would've probably see him pull the trigger, and then all they had to do was to just seal off the book despository. And, yes, finally who asked one of these most important questions about the shooting---if there was a gunman on the grass knoll to JFK's right, why wasn't there a an exit wound on JFK's left side? The bullet would've made a small hole on Kennedy's right face, pushing through to punch out the left side of his face. Additionally, if you look at the Zapruder film, the back of JFK's head is still on! I just don't like it when people argue that the back of his head was missing when clearly half of his front is gone. Of course, I won't even mention that Oswald probably didn't even use the scope, and aimed with the ole' iron sights.

[jason_c]

hi Graham

late to this, sorry.

I recall seeing a documentary in which someone was filmed using the actual (???) rifle and meeting the shot / time deadline with a little time to spare.

I think it is telling that some people apparently ran towards the grassy knoll after the shooting - why would they do that?

atb

viv

They were following officer Clyde Haygood.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/arnold3.htm

[j.r-ahde]

Hello Gman992!

On the other hand, the sergeant, who trained Oswald, described him as a "goofy shooter"!

So, how good Goofy has been with firearms?!

All the best
Jukka

[jason_c]

Hello Gman992!

On the other hand, the sergeant, who trained Oswald, described him as a "goofy shooter"!

So, how good Goofy has been with firearms?!

All the best


Jukka

Strange considering he qualified as a sharpshooter with a score of 212 in the Marines. According to his records his best position being the kneeling position (his likely assassination position) whilst shooting.

[j.r-ahde]

Hello jason c!

Well, to go on with my thoughts;

What is the Maximum score in the Marines?

I've never been a Marine...

All the best
Jukka

(PS: It's an architype thing with this matter; whose records, where?! Since this case is filled with info and "info"...)

[jimarilyn]

Strange considering he qualified as a sharpshooter with a score of 212 in the Marines. According to his records his best position being the kneeling position (his likely assassination position) whilst shooting.

This score was achieved literally years before the JFK assassination and with Marine approved quality equipment, not a 1941 piece of crock (Mannlicher Carcano) with a misaligned scope.
To retain any skill/efficiency (and keep one's eye 'in') with a rifle would require a person to undertake continued regular target practice. So just when was Lee Oswald supposed to have carried out this target practice ? Perhaps during his dinner breaks from work ? I'd be very interested indeed to know.

[sdreid]

In my view, scopes are overrated as sights anyway. I avoid them when I'm given the option for shooting.

[Roy Corduroy]

So just when was Lee Oswald supposed to have carried out this target practice ?

He belonged to a hunting club in Russia. No kidding.

Roy

[j.r-ahde]

Hello Stan!

In my view, scopes are overrated as sights anyway. I avoid them when I'm given the option for shooting.

Well, I've never tried with a scope!

All the best
Jukka

[j.r-ahde]

Hello Stan!

One thing came to my mind;

I know, that they have tested the shooting circumstances in Dallas, at least in 1978 (if I remember correctly!)

Did they use scopes then or not?!

All the best
Jukka

[sdreid]

Hi Jukka,

I think they did but I won't be able to swear to it.

[cappuccina]

Yes, they did...House Select Committee investigation into JFK's assassination....1978....

[j.r-ahde]

Hello you all!

Just out of interest;

What do you think about James Files?!

All the best
Jukka