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Originally posted by jason_c View PostWhy would all the doctors see an entry wound in Kennedy's throat when it was obliterated early on by the tracheostomy?Chief Superintendent Brownlow: "Are there any Tension Indicators? Over!"
DI Galloway: "Tension indicators?! They're throwing bloody petrol bombs. Sir."
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Originally posted by jason_c View PostWhy would all the doctors see an entry wound in Kennedy's throat when it was obliterated early on by the tracheostomy?
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Originally posted by jimarilyn View PostThese very experienced doctors were witnessing the small entrance wound in JFK's throat upon his arrival into Emergency at Parkland. This wound was enlarged to enable the potentially life saving tracheostomy operation to be performed.
Dr Perry, who administered the tracheotomy "thrice stated at a press conference later that day that the wound appeared to be an entrance wound. However, when interviewed by the Warren Commission, Perry said that he now believed that a "full jacketed bullet without deformation passing through the skin would leave a similar wound for an exit and entrance wound and with the facts which you have made available and with these assumptions, I believe that it was an exit wound."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Perry_(physician)
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Originally posted by jason_c View PostIn an emergency situation they had time to have a detailed study of the wound?
Dr Perry, who administered the tracheotomy "thrice stated at a press conference later that day that the wound appeared to be an entrance wound. However, when interviewed by the Warren Commission, Perry said that he now believed that a "full jacketed bullet without deformation passing through the skin would leave a similar wound for an exit and entrance wound and with the facts which you have made available and with these assumptions, I believe that it was an exit wound."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Perry_(physician)
Dr Perry's statements to the press on November 22nd 1963 were made very shortly after JFK expired. He had treated numerous gunshot wounds previous to this and well knew the difference between entrance and exit wounds. His memory was very fresh and he was clearly describing what he (and other Parkland staff) had seen as he examined JFK's body on that hospital bed..
When he was interviewed by the Warren Commissin a full 4 months had elapsed since the day of the assassination. Much had been written and theorised about concerning the assassination during those intervening 4 months. 4 months for his memory/recall to be coloured and swayed by things he had read, heard on radio or seen on TV.
He had obviously felt pressurised to tell the Warren Commission what they wanted to hear. The Commission had a pre-established agenda and we all know what that was.
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jimarilyn
I can just as easily claim Dr Perry was tired and emotional at the press conference. A press conference where he was being bombarded by all sorts of questions by numerous reporters.
Still, you can keep believing that the doctors at Parkland viewed the throat wound as an entry wound.
I have simply posted a differing view from one of the main surgeons at the scene that day.
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this is an interesting paragraph...
One of the pages in our archive reveals that in a dispatch sent almost exactly 25 minutes after the assassination, Mr. Smith reported "Some of the Secret Service agents thought the gunfire was from an automatic weapon fired to the right rear of the president's car, probably from a grassy knoll to which police rushed."
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another significant paragraph...
No other news reports or witness interviews are known to contain the phrase "grassy knoll" at that time. In fact, tapes of local news coverage reveal that "grassy knoll" was later repeated by a few other reporters for several hours until investigators became convinced the shots originated from the old Texas School Book Depository. Yet it remains an historical fact that police and spectators immediately ran to the grassy knoll, not to the Depository building. And UPI's Merriman Smith reported it first.Last edited by rain; 08-27-2009, 10:37 PM.
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I may slowly be coming to the conclusion that there might have been a conspiracy to kill JFK. I don't believe at all in the grassy knoll crap, the footage clearly shows the wound entering at the back of his head and the propulsion going out the front. I have no firm belief whether Oswald was the actual shooter or the patsy, but I believe the shot came from the Book depository. However, I after looking at some things, I am starting to say.."hmmm". Just a niggle currently.
Let all Oz be agreed;
I need a better class of flying monkeys.
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If the you follow the conspiracy theory...
of the JFK assassination in Dallas, you start first with a list of those least likely to mourn his passing.
It has always intrigued me that all of the conspiracy theories eliminate Jackie Kennedy from the pool of suspects. He treated her like dirt and his numerous affairs made her a cruel victim. If she knew what was going to happen in Dallas, I really wonder if she would have warned him...seriously!
I can't shake the idea that what happened in Dallas on 11/22/63 was an execution. The 64k question would then be who the bullet(s) were really directed at: JFK, his brother Bobby or patriarch Joseph P. Kennnedy?
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Originally posted by Ally View PostI may slowly be coming to the conclusion that there might have been a conspiracy to kill JFK. I don't believe at all in the grassy knoll crap, the footage clearly shows the wound entering at the back of his head and the propulsion going out the front. I have no firm belief whether Oswald was the actual shooter or the patsy, but I believe the shot came from the Book depository. However, I after looking at some things, I am starting to say.."hmmm". Just a niggle currently.
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I don't yet know if I believe it. However, in order for something like a presidential assassination to occur, only one little thing needs to go wrong. There were so many lapses in security and so many irregularities that occurred that day that it does seem to be beyond the realm of probable chance. The footage of Emory Roberts ordering the secret service off kennedy's limo was what made me start wondering. Because if the two agents had been on the foot rails where they were supposed to have been, the shot would not have been able to occur. So in any case...just currently wondering. I don't usually subscribe to conspiracy theories as they are usually way too convoluted, and my "theory" is probably not so much a plot as an "allowed to happen" or did not prevent.Last edited by Ally; 08-28-2009, 09:06 PM.
Let all Oz be agreed;
I need a better class of flying monkeys.
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70 today
Had he survived the shooting, Lee Oswald might have been celebrating his 70th birthday today. The hoodlum, Jack Ruby, made sure that possibility would never exist and in effect caused 46 years of chaos and confusion to reign as to the truth about the assassination and what dark and powerful forces were behind it. Who mourns for the innocent patsy, Lee Oswald, I wonder ?
It's very interesting to note what Ruby had to say (in a filmed interview in Dallas Jail) about the subject......
Ruby - "Everything pertaining to what's happening has never come to the surface. The world will never know the true facts of what occurred, my motives...The people who had to have so much to gain, and had such an ulterior motive to put me in the position I'm in, will never let the true facts come above board to the world."
Interviewer - "Are these people in very high positions Jack ?"
Ruby - "Yes"Last edited by jimarilyn; 10-18-2009, 01:41 PM.
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Hi Pettifogger,
I don't know if you have ever been to Arlington National Cemetary but there is a blown up photograph on the wall of Jackie Kennedy at the grave site when JFK was being laid to rest. It is hard to look at it even after all these years. The look of pain and sorrow on her face is heart breaking.
c.d.
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