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Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
that they werent charged and convicted of child neglect (at least)was the second tragedy in this case. what a couple of complete and utter self centered psychopaths.
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Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
You mean other than leaving Maddie alone for hours?
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Originally posted by Abby Normal View PostIt would be interesting to know how Breukner first came to the attention of the police-was it by the confession to the "friend"? If so, need to know who it is and the circs around the "confession"--is it a jail house snitch type scenario?
any way this loser does look like a good suspect-apparently he has previous sexual assaults at that resort and is a pedophile. and was there at the time.
Hopefully they can match DNA-Im assuming they have DNA from the crime scene? Does anyone know?
The Germans did a sift through phone numbers used in the vicinity of the Ocean Club on the night and then attempted to discern if the numbers were linked to anyone who had a criminal record. This flagged up Breuckner. There is no DNA from the crime scene as the Portuguese Police failed to secure the scene in the initial golden hour in particular. In saying that the focus was finding Madeleine so the initial Police actions were very inadequate in regards scene preservation.
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Originally posted by Sunny Delight View Post
That is a different question. Does that make them involved in their daughters disappearance? Obviously not. Were they guilty of neglect? Absolutely as were all their friends. Don't forget the whole party did it. But then it would be impossible to prosecute them for that under British law when it occurred in Portugal. The law is complicated.
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Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
The point is had the McCann's not left there daughter unattended she wouldn't be missing. It does not matter if all there friends did leave there children unattended. Fair point about it occuring in Portugal.
They have to live with that choice. Forever. Imagine waking up everyday knowing what you did presented an opportunity for a predator to take your daughter never to be found. And you have two other kids to bring up. Some people may never have any sympathy for them and maybe they don't deserve any but my god nothing anyone can say or judge them about could even touch the sides of the guilt they have to live with.
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Originally posted by Paddy View PostDidnt the mother or father delete some calls ? Were they not found?
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Originally posted by Sunny Delight View Post... but my god nothing anyone can say or judge them about could even touch the sides of the guilt they have to live with.
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Originally posted by gallicrow View Post
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Originally posted by Sunny Delight View Post
They have to live with that choice. Forever. Imagine waking up everyday knowing what you did presented an opportunity for a predator to take your daughter never to be found. And you have two other kids to bring up. Some people may never have any sympathy for them and maybe they don't deserve any but my god nothing anyone can say or judge them about could even touch the sides of the guilt they have to live with.
and how do you know they have any guilt? You call the posting of the video of the father pathetic and we dont know the context, blah blah blah and yet you are going to cry about the guilt they feel like thats some fact? you have no idea if they have any guilt at all.
And as far as we know they are directly responsible-they could have sold her, killed her, accidently killed her. At the very least they are indirectly responsible and guilty of child neglect.
I seriously hope they do have "guilt they have to live with everyday". im not so sure. but I have no sympathy for them at all-only for their poor child.
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Originally posted by Sunny Delight View Post
I remember something about that. But that is just a starting point. Who were they calling? Their accomplice who had snatched their daughter? A friend so they could hide the body? You can look at it and think that's suspicious but the crucial thing is what would they seek to hide? Why call someone 9-10 times? If we are to believe they were involved in killing Madeleine accidentally who is Kate phoning. It wasnt Gerry as his phone didn't ping the masts. Gerry rang Kate a couple of times- probably to update on the search. So who did they call- and why?
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