JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[cobalt]

Fiver wrote:

So why do you feel it was necessary for anyone other than LHO to kill JD Tippit?

It's a fair question. I think we CTs tend to focus on the perceived weakness of the evidence that places Oswald at the Tippit shooting: timings, ID evidence, shell casings, Texas Theatre witnesses etc. But if not Oswald, then who and why?

We assume the Tippit killing was linked to the JFK assassination. A Dallas officer had not been killed on duty for around a dozen years so it would be one almighty coincidence for that to happen within 45 minutes of the presidential murder. The manner of the killing- more akin to a professional execution rather than a fleeing felon shooting his way out- would indicate something out of the ordinary as well. The fact that the murderer was confronted whilst apparently doing no more than walking along the sidewalk, yet felt the need to resort to violence so quickly, also lends weight to a link with the JFK assassination. So I will work on the basis that the two murders were connected.

The answer must lie in the reason why Tippit pulled up his police car and approached a member of the public. The notion that this person matched the description seems insufficient. Tippit had been driving around for about 20 minutes after this radio bulletin and must have passed half a dozen such persons: even if the walker was a rough match there had to be some further reason for Tippit to stop. He had no reason to assume an assassin from Dealey Plaza would be out for a stroll in Oak Cliff. Had Tippit been detailed to a roadblock near the crime scene, or asked to scrutinise rail and bus stations (did these basic procedures take place that day?) then that would have been a different matter. So I can't believe he nonchalantly confronted a pedestrian on wild suspicion; but then neither was this a routine stop given what transpired.

So why did Tippit stop? Well, we know his behaviour was reportedly erratic around this time. His sitting parked outside the GLOCO station- which I think predates his radio instruction to move into that general area- is well supported. The failed telephone call from the Top Ten Record shop and the hard stop of the Andrews' vehicle are not so definite but do correspond to the overall picture of the man who accelerated away from the GLOCO station. Bizarrely, Tippit was considered such a familiar presence in Oak Cliff, an area few miles from his regular beat, that some witnesses actually assumed he was a local patrol officer. Tippit had some connection with the Oak Cliff area that predated the assassination and has never been satisfactorily explained.

So who killed Tippit? I think Tippit was killed by a person connected to the JFK assassination and I don't mean Oswald obviously. I think he knew, by sight at least, the person he stopped and that person viewed Tippit as an immediate danger to the conspiracy.

But why was it necessary to kill a police officer in broad daylight? Well, once your group has shot the POTUS an officer is not such a big deal. Tippit, rather like Oswald, was beginning to realise that events had spiralled out of control and sensed a danger to himself. Both men were killed/arrested within an hour of each other reaching for a weapon. Tippit's stopping of the pedestrian was an attempt to regain some control over events, an action which was not welcomed.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Perhaps Fishy can give us an approximated time of when he will have finished posting the entire content of Gil Jesus’ website onto this thread and we can all just come back when he’s done? With other posters of both sides trying to actually discuss the case, you know…using our own thoughts, we are perhaps in danger of slowing down Fishy’s important project. When he’s finished perhaps I’ll begin cut and pasting Vince Bugliosi’s book? At 1600 pages though I’m unsure how long it will take…a couple of years at least. Then perhaps I’ll go over and clog up one of the ripper threads by cutting and pasting the entire Sourcebook or Sugden. Perhaps we can start a new thread ‘cut and pasting’ corner?

Someone makes a point or asks a question and someone replies with a direct answer (if it was in response to a question) or they give their own thoughts (if it was in response to a point)

Is this too much to expect?

[Herlock Sholmes]

Dallas Police Chief Curry believed one shot came from the front

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRAAensSkfE&t=13s&ab_channel=GilJesus

[13 secs ]

And Alex Jones believed that the Sandy Hook massacre was a conspiracy. Do you believe that he was right just because he said it and some people agreed with it.

[Herlock Sholmes]

There you have it , you see the problem now dont you ,yet you cant even admit that much . Everywhere you look ,the Magic Bullet, the Fake Autopsy photos , the Mauser rifle, the Tippet killing slugs , the 4th kill shot bullet , the Grassy knoll etc etc what do the all have in common .? They all contradict and show the lies and inconsistancies of the Bogus Warren commission conspiracy which you fell for .

Two questions…

First - I ask George, Cobalt, Patrick or anyone that is on the same side of this debate as Fishy to stand up and tell me that this post of his makes any sense at all in relation to the post it’s allegedly responding to.

Fishy asked if I believed that the Parkland doctors who felt that they had seen a wound at the back of Kennedy’s head were lying, mistaken etc.

I answered the question unequivocally that I thought that they were MISTAKEN.

How can anyone reply with “there you have it…” Why no response to my answer of “mistaken?”

Perhaps Fishy now believes that witnesses can never be mistaken?

Second question - why has Fishy refused to answer my question, which was about whether he thought that those at Parkland who didn’t think that there was a wound in the back of Kennedy’s head were lying, mistaken etc… *

From experience I’m expecting Fishy to avoid answering this one…let’s see (I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt)



* Dr. Charles Baxter testified that the head exit wound was in the “temporal parietal” area.

Dr. Robert Grossman, the Neurosurgeon who accompanied Dr. William Kemp Clark into the trauma room said that the large defect he saw was “in the parietal area above the right ear.” Bugliosi, being an honest investigator, added that Grossman’s credibility on this matter might be questioned though. He elucidates in an endnote which is on the cd-Rom which accompanies his book which I don’t have the facility to read so I can’t explain further.

Dr. Adolphe Giesecke Jr testified that the exit wound extended from “ the brow line [ridge above the eye] to the occiput on the left (sic) hand side of the head.”

Dr. Marion T. Jenkins, anaesthesiologist, said he saw “a great laceration on the right side of the head (temporal and occipital)”

Dr. Kenneth Salyer said that the exit wound was in the “right temporal region.”

Dr. Donald Seldin, Chairman of the Department of Medicine, said that “ the entire frontal, parietal and temporal bones were shattered….I believe that the official story is accurate in all details.”


What about the above then Fishy?

And what about Dr. Charles Carrico, one of the two main Doctors? He was asked if the doctors who said that they believed that they had seen a wound at the back of Kennedy’s head. What did he say?

ABSOLUTELY.

They clearly were mistaken. Most were nowhere near the head. The alleged wound was in an area of the head that they couldn’t have seen. We can eliminate one Doctor ….Crenshaw as a fantasist. Parkland is an empty sack.

Humes, Boswell and Finck.

Honest and correct without question.

[The Rookie Detective]

The forensics evidence shows the fatal shot came from the south knoll. I do not discount a possible almost simultaneous shot from the rear, but from a lower vantage point than the TSBD.

I agree George