JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[Fiver]

There are clearly 2 factions on this post. One that is willing to believe what a government tells it, and the other that has doubt and believes truth and justice has not been served.

The government is not a monolithic hivemind. It is composed of multiple organizations with different goals, at times competing goals. Those organizations are composed of individuals with personal goals. That's before we consider that any large enough organization will have competing internal factions. One side of the debate accepts this.

Humans have imperfect memories and perception. People can misspeak, mistype, and miswrite. Contradictions are not proof of lying. Contradictions are not proof of a conspiracy. One side of the debate accepts this.

Forging x-rays, ballistics, and photographic evidence that will fool forensic techniques that hadn't been invented yet is impossible. One side of the debate accepts this.

Conspiracies exist. Sane conspiracies require credible motives that outweigh the risks of failure. Smart conspiracies minimize the people involved. Smart conspiracies don't require the help of rival organizations. One side of the debate accepts this.

Oswald as a patsy is a non-starter. There are over a dozen witnesses of the Tippet shooting, none of whom were part of the government. It would require the Dallas Police Department to set up and murder one of their own members. None of the civilians or police involved would gain anything from Tippit's murder.

So if there was a conspiracy, Oswald would be part of it. I won't rule out that Oswald had a few of supporters that chickened out or failed, but so far no evidence has been shown that they exist.

[Patrick Differ]

Fiver did you not see the Admission Note signed by Dr McClelland in his own handwriting in the Appeal submittal? I never said McClelland admitted Kennedy as he came in after Perry and Cirrico were there. He did however craft the Admission Note and stated Cause of Death! Massive wound to head. Compare that to Warren Commission evidence from Humes on Cause of death. " Gunshot wound to head".

The Admission Note does not show up in the WC exhibits. Likely because it mentions a shot to the Temple? But yet pictures of Oswalds Pubic hair and all sorts of irrelevant exhibits do.

[Fiver]

Hume said the back wound did not transit the body.

That is definitely not what Dr Humes said.

"A. My problem is, very simply stated, we had an entrance wound high in the posterior back above the scapula. We didn't know where the exit wound was at that point. I'd be the first one to admit it. We knew in general in the past that we should have been more prescient than we were, I must confess, because when we removed the breast plate and examined the thoracic cavity, we saw a contusion on the upper lobe of the lung. There was no defect in the pleura anyplace. So it's obvious that the missile had gone over that top of the lung.
Of course, the more I thought about it, the more I realized it had to go out from the neck.

It was the only place it could go, after it was not found anywhere in the X-rays. So early the next morning, I called Parkland Hospital and talked with Malcolm Perry, I guess it was. And he said, Oh, yeah, there was a wound right in the middle of the neck by the tie, and we used that for the tracheotomy. Well, they obliterated, literally obliterated--when we went back to the photographs, we thought we might have seen some indication of the edge of that wound in the gaping skin where the--but it wouldn't make a great deal of sense to go slashing open the neck. What would we learn?"

[c.d.]

There are clearly 2 factions on this post. One that is willing to believe what a government tells it, and the other that has doubt and believes truth and justice has not been served.

Well to be fair, do they believe it solely because it comes from the government or because they think it is correct? Big difference.

And is it possible that those who don't believe the Warren Report do so because they want to see themselves as rebels, their own man, free thinkers if you will?

That argument can go both ways. Just sayin'.

c.d.

[Fiver]

And yet you were showed how it was done , and couldn't disprove it . Just your running commentary reply which means nothing .

You cannot change the laws of physics.

Switching caskets would require actual magic. Either the body has to be transferred between airplanes in mid-flight without anyone noticing or you need a second body close enough to JFK's body that it will fool x-rays and dental records.