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  • Patrick Differ
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    Humes was described by the House Committee after citing the Bethesda Autopsys many failures, as like sending a 7 year old violin student to try out for the New York Symphony. And they were not talking child prodigy.

    That is a harsh rebuke. No doubt the Autopsy caused as many problems as it may have solved.

    I took another look at the events of that day and the Press briefings from Parkland Doctors were interesting. They were asked about entrance and exit and the descriptions they used were not just inconclusive but open for interpretation. In other words it could have been either.

    If there was a need to silence Oswald and steer the outcome to him as a lone gunman, the Press briefings are a place one might look.

    When Oswald said he was a Patsy, after the Press Briefing, was his fate sealed?

    Did it happen this way? I dont honestly know. Just thoughts that came to me while reviewing data yesterday.

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  • GBinOz
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    Originally posted by Fiver View Post

    That's a wildly inaccurate summary of Dr Humes Warren Commission testimony.

    Commander HUMES - Yes, sir. We were able to ascertain with absolute certainty that the bullet had passed by the apical portion of the right lung producing the injury which we mentioned.
    I did not at that point have the information from Doctor Perry about the wound in the anterior neck, and while that was a possible explanation for the point of exit, we also had to consider the possibility that the missile in some rather inexplicable fashion had been stopped in its path through the President's body and, in fact, then had fallen from the body onto the stretcher.
    Mr. SPECTER - And what theory did you think possible, at that juncture, to explain the passing of the bullet back out the point of entry; or had you been provided with the fact that external heart massage had been performed on the President?
    Commander HUMES - Yes, sir; we had, and we considered the possibility that some of the physical maneuvering performed by the doctors might have in some way caused this event to take place.
    Mr. SPECTER - Now, have you since discounted that possibility, Doctor Humes?
    Commander HUMES - Yes; in essence we have.


    Commander HUMES - We concluded that this missile depicted in 385 "C" which entered the President's body traversed the President's body and made its exit through the wound observed by the physicians at Parkland Hospital and later extended as a tracheotomy wound.

    "If the first look at the apple shows that it's rotten, why bite into it hoping that some of it is edible?"

    After your two deliberately deceptive posts, I am taking no further looks at your apples.

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  • Fiver
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    Originally posted by GBinOz View Post
    Another deceptive post that fails to mention that the above is from Humes deposition to the ARRB in Feb 1996. At the time of the autopsy Hume probed the back wound and found it to be shallow, as confirmed by Finck, and was puzzled as to the lack of the presence of a projectile. After briefly considering an "ice" projectile, he postulated that the projectile must have fallen out as a result of the resuscitative measures utilised at Parkland. After speaking to Perry he burned his notes and rewrote the history of the autopsy to accommodate a neck wound instead of a back wound.
    That's a wildly inaccurate summary of Dr Humes Warren Commission testimony.

    Commander HUMES - Yes, sir. We were able to ascertain with absolute certainty that the bullet had passed by the apical portion of the right lung producing the injury which we mentioned.
    I did not at that point have the information from Doctor Perry about the wound in the anterior neck, and while that was a possible explanation for the point of exit, we also had to consider the possibility that the missile in some rather inexplicable fashion had been stopped in its path through the President's body and, in fact, then had fallen from the body onto the stretcher.
    Mr. SPECTER - And what theory did you think possible, at that juncture, to explain the passing of the bullet back out the point of entry; or had you been provided with the fact that external heart massage had been performed on the President?
    Commander HUMES - Yes, sir; we had, and we considered the possibility that some of the physical maneuvering performed by the doctors might have in some way caused this event to take place.
    Mr. SPECTER - Now, have you since discounted that possibility, Doctor Humes?
    Commander HUMES - Yes; in essence we have.


    Commander HUMES - We concluded that this missile depicted in 385 "C" which entered the President's body traversed the President's body and made its exit through the wound observed by the physicians at Parkland Hospital and later extended as a tracheotomy wound.


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  • GBinOz
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    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
    Hey Iron Willpower, didn't you promise to never again darken the portals of this thread?

    Carry on my friend.

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  • GBinOz
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    Originally posted by Fiver View Post

    That is definitely not what Dr Humes said.

    "A. My problem is, very simply stated, we had an entrance wound high in the posterior back above the scapula. We didn't know where the exit wound was at that point. I'd be the first one to admit it. We knew in general in the past that we should have been more prescient than we were, I must confess, because when we removed the breast plate and examined the thoracic cavity, we saw a contusion on the upper lobe of the lung. There was no defect in the pleura anyplace. So it's obvious that the missile had gone over that top of the lung.
    Of course, the more I thought about it, the more I realized it had to go out from the neck.

    It was the only place it could go, after it was not found anywhere in the X-rays. So early the next morning, I called Parkland Hospital and talked with Malcolm Perry, I guess it was. And he said, Oh, yeah, there was a wound right in the middle of the neck by the tie, and we used that for the tracheotomy. Well, they obliterated, literally obliterated--when we went back to the photographs, we thought we might have seen some indication of the edge of that wound in the gaping skin where the--but it wouldn't make a great deal of sense to go slashing open the neck. What would we learn?​
    "
    Another deceptive post that fails to mention that the above is from Humes deposition to the ARRB in Feb 1996. At the time of the autopsy Hume probed the back wound and found it to be shallow, as confirmed by Finck, and was puzzled as to the lack of the presence of a projectile. After briefly considering an "ice" projectile, he postulated that the projectile must have fallen out as a result of the resuscitative measures utilised at Parkland. After speaking to Perry he burned his notes and rewrote the history of the autopsy to accommodate a neck wound instead of a back wound.

    There is an interesting video (only 2 minutes long) of an interview with Arlen Specter who says that he based his SBT on drawings of the wounds, not photographs. His final quotation is very interesting:

    Last edited by GBinOz; 03-23-2025, 12:47 AM.

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