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  • FISHY1118
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    Originally posted by GBinOz View Post

    I think they are uncomfortable with having to endlessly refute debunked replies.

    IMO there was a conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy, involving multiple shooting teams and including the provision of a patsy, by parties who would benefit from Kennedy's removal. The method involved countdown shots (synchronised similar to the 21 gun salute method) and probably some suppressed rifles. There was a separate cover up, to avoid an international incident, aimed at limiting the investigations only to the patsy.

    IMO there were 3 shots from the sniper's nest by Malcolm Wallace using the Carcano - The Tague shot to draw attention, and 2 shots that hit Connolly.

    I think there was a shot from the rear using a projectile that had previously been fired through the Carcano and was fired thought a 30 calibre rifle using a sabot and possibly a suppresser. This caused the shallow wound, with no exit, in Kennedy's back about 5 inches below the shoulder line.

    I think there were 2 shots from the south knoll, the throat shot through the windscreen, and the fatal head shot, using frangible projectiles. On repeatedly watching the Zapruder film, I am considering that there may have been an almost simultaneous head shot from Wallace that may have also hit Connally.

    I think that there was at least one shot from the Grassy knoll using a 45 calibre weapon, that missed, possibly deliberately to avoid hitting Jackie.

    So Herlock, that's my opinion at this stage. I don't expect a reply as I am confident your will power will prevail.
    I'm so glad you mentioned Malcolm Wallace George. The tape recording i posted earlier here in my opinion a game changer .

    Its never been proven to be anything but the actual recording ,that directly points the finger at LBJ, whos chief assassin was in fact Malcolm Wallace.

    Its been the easiest thing, now 62 year later to completly expose the Warren' Commission lie.

    W.C Apologist are totally ignorant of the fact that all they have, and all there ever going to have is s big bunch of lies and coverups. Multiple Changed testimony, false findings, and fake autopsy photos, which have been shown to be part of the biggest lie ever told.

    Credit to you for giving us your detailed version of events of that day .

    Indeed I agree with you ,it was certainly a extremely well planned and throught out complex assassination of jfk , and the patsy Oswald was the icing on the cake .

    The wool was pulled over the eyes of the general public then as it is today.

    But as they say "you can't put brains in monuments"

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  • Pcdunn
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    Originally posted by Patrick Differ View Post
    The US Government has put together a Task Force in the House to investigate JFK, RFK and MLK Assassinations. I would advise waiting to see what comes of it.
    It will be interesting. I have little hope that this particular Administration will discover the "truth", given they're supported by some people with a distrust of Big Government.

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  • Fiver
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    Originally posted by scottnapa View Post
    It takes only one man to let Ruby into the basement.
    Oswald was supposed to have left the building before Jack Ruby entered the building. The only reason that didn't happen was Oswald insisted on changing sweaters.

    Which leads to possibilities.

    * A mentally unstable club owner succeeded by dumb luck.
    * The Conspiracy chose a mentally unstable amateur shooter. He botched the job by arriving late and succeeded only by dumb luck.
    * Oswald was part of the Conspiracy to have himself killed and used his psychic powers to know he needed to delay long enough for the bumbling assassin to get there.

    Any Conspiracy answer requires that the Conspiracy be composed of idiots who only succeeded by dumb luck.

    That's before we consider that murdering Oswald doesn't help the Conspiracy in any way.

    * If Oswald knew too much, he's been replaced by Ruby, who knows too much. The Conspiracy gains nothing.
    * If Oswald was just a patsy, he's been replaced by Ruby, who knows too much. The Conspiracy is worse off than before it murdered Oswald.

    Originally posted by scottnapa View Post
    It is not necessary to corrupt a police department or the FBI or the Secret Service The conspiracy need not involve a cast of thousands.
    No one has suggested a cast of thousands, but the Conspiracy does require dozens of people, often from rival organizations.

    For example, faking the autopsy would require that everyone present - Army, Navy, Secret Service, FBI, and JFK's personal physician - be part of the Conspiracy

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  • GBinOz
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    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

    Third…you honestly don’t have to bother answering it’s my intention not to post on this subject again (if I can show a little will power)
    It seems to me I've heard that song before.

    Fourth…you say that nothing will change my mind as if I’m being bloody-minded whilst the conspiracy side are the open minded ones. I’d accuse the conspiracy side of being bloody minded. Of starting out from a position of conspiracy and then seeing everything in terms of it.
    I wonder if saying that nothing will change your mind could be considered and unfair assessment? I have changed my mind, including recently, based on an examination of the medical, ballistic, witness and film evidence, but excluding lawyer double talk.

    Ill finish by saying….all of those wider questions that I put to you….not one single poster has ever answered but, more importantly, no matter how confident conspiracy supporters on here claim to be, I have TWICE asked them to tell us what they actually believe…Oswald plus GK gunman, Unknown 6th floor gunman plus GK gunman, gunman firing from elsewhere and GK gunman, not one of them had the courage of their convictions to state something so simple.
    With regard to your tick the box answers - none of the above.

    Anyone would think that they were uncomfortable with scrutiny.

    I think they are uncomfortable with having to endlessly refute debunked replies.

    IMO there was a conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy, involving multiple shooting teams and including the provision of a patsy, by parties who would benefit from Kennedy's removal. The method involved countdown shots (synchronised similar to the 21 gun salute method) and probably some suppressed rifles. There was a separate cover up, to avoid an international incident, aimed at limiting the investigations only to the patsy.

    IMO there were 3 shots from the sniper's nest by Malcolm Wallace using the Carcano - The Tague shot to draw attention, and 2 shots that hit Connolly.

    I think there was a shot from the rear using a projectile that had previously been fired through the Carcano and was fired thought a 30 calibre rifle using a sabot and possibly a suppresser. This caused the shallow wound, with no exit, in Kennedy's back about 5 inches below the shoulder line.

    I think there were 2 shots from the south knoll, the throat shot through the windscreen, and the fatal head shot, using frangible projectiles. On repeatedly watching the Zapruder film, I am considering that there may have been an almost simultaneous head shot from Wallace that may have also hit Connally.

    I think that there was at least one shot from the Grassy knoll using a 45 calibre weapon, that missed, possibly deliberately to avoid hitting Jackie.

    So Herlock, that's my opinion at this stage. I don't expect a reply as I am confident your will power will prevail.

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  • FISHY1118
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    Originally posted by GBinOz View Post
    This is interesting. The WC disproving their own theory?


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    I've seen that exact pic recently George , thanks for posting it.

    Tells us a lot about the Warren Commission doesn't it.

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