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George Cecil Ives:
An Inventory of His Papers at the Harry Ransom Humanities Research Center

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Descriptive Summary
Repository: Harry Ransom Humanities Research Center University of Texas at Austin
Creator: Ives, George Cecil, 1867-1950
Title: George Cecil Ives Papers
Dates: 1874-1949
Extent: 5 boxes and 79 volumes (11 linear ft)
Abstract: The papers consist of 122 volumes of diaries in addition to published works, lectures, and notes. Correspondence includes letters regarding Ives' writings and lectures on prison reform, sodomy, the British Society for the Study of Sex Psychology, and other topics. Additional materials relating to secret societies and the British Society for the Study of Sex Psychology are also present.
RLIN Record #: TXRC93-A5
Language: English.
Administrative Information
Acquisition

Purchase, 1977
Processed by

Deborah Shelby, 1993
Restrictions
Access

Open for research
Biographical Sketch

George Cecil Ives was born on October 1, 1867. He was raised by his father's mother, Emma Ives, and referred to her as his mother. Ives and his grandmother primarily resided in England at Bentworth Hall, or in the South of France. Ives was educated at home and at Magdalene College, Cambridge.

In 1892, Ives met Oscar Wilde at the Authors' Club in London. By this time Ives had accepted his homosexuality and was working to promote the end of the oppression of homosexuals, what he called the "Cause." Ives hoped that Wilde would join the "Cause" but Wilde did not have the same compassion towards this movement that Ives did. Lord Alfred Douglas met Ives in 1893 and introduced him to several Oxford poets, whom Ives encouraged to join the "Cause."

By 1897, Ives understood that the "Cause" would not be accepted openly in society and must therefore have a means of underground communication. Thus he created and founded the Order of Chaeronea, a secret society for homosexuals. The name, Order of Chaeronea, was inspired by the battle of Chaeronea in 338 BC when the 300 members of the Sacred Band of Thebes (composed entirely of friends and lovers) were slaughtered by the army of Philip of Macedonia. Ives and other members dated letters and other materials based on this date, so that 1899 would be written as C2237. An elaborate system of rituals, ceremonies, a service of initiation, seals, codes, and passwords were used by the members. The Secret Society became a worldwide organization and Ives took advantage of every opportunity to spread the word about the "Cause."

The developing study of sex psychology was of great interest to Ives and put him in touch with many of the writers in this field such as Magnus Hirschfeld, Havelock Ellis, Professor Lombroso, and Edward Carpenter. The British Society for the Study of Sex Psychology was founded in 1914 by Carpenter, Hirschfeld, Ives, Laurence Housman, and others. Some of the topics addressed in lecture and publication form by the British Society for the Study of Sex Psychology were: the promotion of the scientific study of sex and a more rational attitude towards sexual conduct; problems and questions connected with sexual psychology (from medical, juridical, and sociological aspects), birth control, abortion, sterilization, veneral diseases, and all aspects of prostitution. In 1931, it was resolved to change the name of the organization to the British Sexological Society.

For the BSS and other interested groups, Ives gave lectures and published books entitled Graeco-Roman View of Youth (1926), and The Plight of the Adolescent.

Ives was also noted for his scholarship of penal methods, having traveled around visiting prisions and studying the penal methods of various European countries, particularly England. He lectured to several groups about his findings and also published books on the topic. Among these were Penal Methods in the Middle Ages (1910), A History of Penal Methods (1914), The Continued Extension of the Criminal Law (1922). Other published works by Ives include Book of Chains (1897), though he claimed no authorship for the publication, and another book of verse entitled Eros' Throne (1900).

George Ives died June 4, 1950.
Scope and Contents

The George Ives papers range in date from 1874 to 1949 and are divided into four series: I. Correspondence, 1874-1936; II. Works, 1897-1937; III. Diaries, 1886-1949; and IV. Miscellaneous, 1888-1949.

The correspondence contains invitations to dinners, parties, and cricket matches, as well as letters regarding Ives' writings and lectures on prison reform, sodomy, the British Society for the Study of Sex Psychology, and other topics. There are also several letters thanking Ives for gifts of books and various lectures given. Among his correspondents were Adolf Brand, Oscar Browning, Edward Carpenter, Havelock Ellis, Norman Gale, Augustus Hare, Ernest Jones, Cesare Lombrose, C.M. North, Reggie Turner, Edward Westermarck, and others.

There are several examples of Ives' published works, lectures, and notes, 1897-1926. Some of the topics represented are: prison reform, crime and punishment, historical views of sexuality, religion, and samples of his verse writing. Typescripts and holograph examples are both present in this series.

The bulk of the material consists of 122 volumes of diaries kept by Ives from the age of nineteen until about six months before his death at age eighty-two. Most of the diaries have daily entries for the period from December 20, 1886 to November 16, 1949. Ives often used the battle of Chaeronea when dating his diary entries, adding 338 years to the actual date. The view Ives provides in his diary of the life of an upper-middle class English homosexual from the end of the nineteenth century to the mid-twentieth century is of particular interest for understanding the homosexual movement in England during this time. The content varies from descriptive impressions of social events, to detailed examinations of his friends and acquaintances, to analyses of the treatment of criminals and the workings of prisons. From volume thirteen on, Ives indexed his diaries and often used them when he was preparing for a lecture or other writings.

Miscellaneous materials include the rules and wax seal impressions for the Secret Society, along with a library catalog for the British Society for the Study of Sex Psychology, and a scrapbook of reviews and loose clippings for three of Ives books, Ero's Throne (1900), A History of Penal Methods (1914), and Obstacles to Human Progress (1939). There is also a galley proof of G.B. Shaw's preface to English Prisons (1922), prior to alterations.

While Ives amassed 45 volumes of scrapbooks, 1892-1949, they do not form part of this collection. These scrapbooks consist of clippings on topics such as murders, punishments, freaks, theories of crime and punishment, transvestism, psychology of gender, homosexuality, cricket scores, and letters he wrote to newspapers. For extracts of these scrapbooks, which were edited by Paul Sieveking and published by Jay Landesman in 1981, see Man Bites Man.

The British Sexological Society Collection at the Ransom Center also contains a large amount of Ives material. He was involved from the onset of the British Sexological Society in several ways, one of which was preserving the papers and records for the organization. There are materials to and from him throughout the collection. A large portion of the Ives material is in the Miscellaneous series, including nine boxes of his notebooks, lectures, and works. A substantial number of letters to Ives from Lawrence Housman (1916-1948), correspondence from Ives' family members, and others, are also part of the Miscellaneous Series. See the manuscript card catalog for further information.
Related Material

Other Ives materials include books, scrapbooks (see Man Bites Man), the Vertical File, and materials in the British Sexological Society, Edward Carpenter, and Oscar Wilde manuscript collections.
Index Terms

Correspondents
Brand, Adolf, 1874-
Browning, Oscar, 1837-1923
Carpenter, Edward, 1844-1929
Cazalett, William Marshall, 1865-1932
Ellis, Havelock, 1859-1939
Evans, Caroline A.
Gale, Norman, 1862-1942
Hare, Augustus J. C. (Augustus John Cuthbert), 1834-1903
Jones, Ernest, 1879-1958
Lacon, Edmund Beecroft Francis Heathcote, Sir, 1878-1911
Lombroso, Cesare, 1835-1909
Morrison, William Douglas, 1853-1943
Moss, Samuel, 1858-1918
North, Charlotte Maria, Lady, 1831-1909
Prescott, E. Livingston
Shaw, Bernard, 1856-1950
Turner, Reggie, 1869?-1938
Westermark, Edward, 1862-1939
Subjects
British Sexological Society
British Society for the Study of Sex Psychology
Crime and Criminals--Great Britain
Douglas, Alfred Bruce, Lord, 1870-1945
Ellis, Havelock, 1859-1939
Gay Liberation Movement--Great Britain
Gay Liberation Movement--Great Britain--History
Homosexuality--Personal narratives
Homosexuals--Great Britain--Social Conditions
Order of Chaeronea
Prison Reform--Great Britain
Prisons--Great Britain
Secret Society of Homosexuals
Sex (psychology)
Sex Crimes--Great Britain
Wilde, Oscar, 1845-1900
Document Types
Diaries
Galley proofs
Scrapbooks
Container List

Series I. Correspondence, 1890-1936
(1.5 boxes)

Consists of letters and invitations to Ives from Edward Carpenter, Havelock and Edith Ellis, Augustus Hare, E.B.H. Lacon, W.D. Morrison, C.M. North, Edward Westmark, W.H. Wilkins, and others. Several of the correspondents who wrote only one or two letters were primarily discussing arrangements for dinner or cricket games. There is one folder of unidentified letters, one folder consisting of invitations and envelopes, and one folder containing two letters to Ives' grandmother, Emma. One of these letters is from Susan Ann Talbot Ives (his aunt) and the other is from Anna Whiteside, which was removed from the family bible (cataloged in HRC book collection, BS 2085 1848 O94b IVS). This series is arranged alphabetically by author. There is an alphabetical index to the correspondents at the end of the inventory. For other corresponence to and from Ives, see the list of additional materials.
box folder
1 1 A-C, 1891-1933, nd
2 D-E, 1893-1911, nd
3 Ellis, Havelock, 1902-1936
4 F-H, 1891-1920, nd
5 Hare, Augustus J.C., 1898-1902
6 I-O, 1894-1917, nd
7 Morrison, W.D., 1896-1912

2 1 North, C.M., 1892-1897
2 P-Z, 1891-1918, nd
3 Westmarck, Edward, 1902-1911
4 Wilkins, W.H., 1892-1895
5 Invitations, 1896-1909, nd
6 Unidentified, 1890-1905, nd
7 Letters to Emma Ives, nd

Series II. Works, 1897-1937
(2.5 boxes)

Holograph drafts of Ives' published works present in the collection are, Continued Extension of Criminal Law and The Graeco-Roman View of Youth. Also included are notes for several lectures that Ives gave: an address delivered to the British Society for the Study of Sex Psychology (1915); Ashford lecture I, Treatment of Crime (1922); a League of Peace and Freedom address (1919); and a lecture before the Orthopsychic Society (1915). There are four versions of The Missing Baronet, including revisions, though they are not all complete. The Missing Baronet manuscripts are bound and housed as volumes 123-126. Other bound works are housed in folders. All works are arranged alphabetically by title.
box folder
2 8 Unidentified work, fragments, nd
9 Address delivered for the British Society for the Study of Sex Psychology, 1915
10 "Ages and the Universities," 1915?
11 Ashford lecture, I, "Treatment of Crime," 1922
12 Book of Chains, published 1897

3 1 Chemistry, etc., notebook, Dec. 10, 1913
2 Continued Extension of Criminal Law, nd
3 Crimelessness: Index of some scrapbooks, Howard League lecture, 1911
4 Criminology, nd
5 Notes for lecture, 1911
6 1912
7 Empires, Old and New, 1920
8 Extinct Animals, nd
9 Graeco-Roman View of the Attractions of Youth,
I, nd
box folder
3 10 II, nd

4 1 Lecture, nd
2 Quotations, nd
3 Human Mind in the Face of Natural Phenomena I & II, nd
4 Index to references to crimelessness in news cuttings, nd
5 League of Peace and Freedom address, 1919
6 Lecture before the Orthopsychic Society, 1915
volume
vol. 123 The Missing Baronet, typescript

vol.124 Holograph draft, nd

vol.125 Revision continued, holograph 1914,

vol.126 Chapter XXI continued, holograph, nd
box folder
4 7-8 Opinions and Prejudices, 1937

5 1 Plight of Adolescents (2), 1926
2 (3), 1926
3 Religion of Socialism, nd
4 Relinquit, nd
5 Treatment of Crime, 1912
6 Notes, 1913
7 Verse book, 1897-1898

Series III. Diaries 1886-1949
(122 volumes)

The 122 volumes of diaries were handwritten on a single side of a page, and occasionally Ives would add information at a later date on the verso in order to clarify a point or add other comments. Sometimes Ives wrote in several different codes so that an onlooker could not at a glance understand what he was writing about. The codes are decipherable, though some require more time than others. For further descriptions of the codes see "A Catalogue of the George Ives Collection," attached as an appendix to this inventory.

These diaries provide detailed descriptions of Ives' life and his impressions of persons around him such as Oscar Wilde, Lord Alfred Douglas, Magnus Hirschfeld, Edward Carpenter, and close intimate friends and acquaintances. Other topics such as penal methods, the homosexual "Cause," dressing in drag, detailed descriptions of social events and parties, current criminal cases, personal feelings, and many other subjects are recorded by Ives in his diaries.

The first sixty volumes were bound together in groups of five. Diary 35 was bound between 32 and 33, but all other volumes are in chronological order. There are two sets of page numbers, one in the upper righthand corner that paginates each individual volume and one at the bottom of the page which is continous from volume 1 through 122, ending with page number 19,973. Ives indexed each volume beginning with volume thirteen. The indexes refer to the page numbers for the individual volume found at the top of the page. The volume number designations were retained for this reason. The condition of the diaries is good, though volumes 1-60 are bound very tightly and require special care when opening.
volume
v.1-5 1886 December 20 - 1889 September 15

v.6-10 1889 September19 - 1891 May 21

v.11-15 1891 May 21 - 1893 March 18

v.16-20 1893 March 19 - 1894 July 14

v.21-25 1894 July 17 - 1895 October 26

v.26-30 1895 October 26 - 1897 April 19

v.31-35 1897 April 20 - 1899 November 7

v.36-40 1899 November 9 - 1902 January 27

v.41-45 1902 January 28 - 1904 December 19

v.46-50 1904 December 20 - 1907 November 6

v.51-55 1907 November 6 - 1911 June 14

v.56-60 1911 June 15 - 1914 July 9

v.61 1914 July 11 - November 30

v.62 1914 December 5 - 1915 May 7

v.63 1915 May 8 - October 31

v.64 1915 October 31 - 1916 March 25

v.65 1916 March 26 - July 29

v.66 1916 July 20 - November 20

v.67 1916 November 20 - 1917 May 6

v.68 1917 May 6 - September 26

v.69 1917 September 26 - 1918 February 2

v.70 1918 February 2 - June 3

v.71 1918 June 4 - October 10

v.72 1918 October 11 - 1919 March 31

v.73 1919 April 1 - September 27

v.74 1919 September 28 - 1920 May 5

v.75 1920 May 5 - September 1

v.76 1920 September 2 - October 24

v.77 1920 October 24 - 1921 January 3

v.78 1921 January 3 - February 22

v.79 1921 February 22 - March 27

v.80 1921 March 27 - April 30

v.81 1921 April 30 - October 26

v.82 1921 October 27 - 1922 May 9

v.83 1922 May 10 - December 20

v.84 1922 December 20 - 1923 June 28

v.85 1923 June 28 - December 9

v.86 1923, December 10 - 1924, July 6

v.87 1924 July 7 - 1925, February 21

v.88 1925 February 24 - October 4

v.89 1925 October 4 - 1926 May 14

v.90 1926 May 14 - 1927 March 20

v.91 1927 March 20 - 1928 January 24

v.92 1928 January 25 - November 17

v.93 1928 November 17 - 1929 November 6

v.94 1929 November 7 - 1930 October 1

v.95 1930 October 2 - 1931 August 21

v.96 1931 August 22 - 1932 April 26

v.97 1932 April 27 - 1933 March 3

v.98 1933 March 4 - 1934 April 4

v.99 1934 April 5 - 1935 March 7

v.100 1935 March 8 - 1936 February 27

v.101 1936 February 28 - 1937 February 28

v.102 1937 March 1 - 1938 March 13

v.103 1938 March 14 - 1939 March 26

v.104 1939 March 28 - 1940 March 18

v.105 1940 March 19 - 1941 February 20

v.106 1941 February 21 - August 4

v.107 1941 August 5 - 1942 March 11

v.108 1942 March 12 - October 11

v.109 1942 October 12 - 1943 April 13

v.110 1943 April 14 - October 4

v.111 1943 October 5 - 1944 February 27

v.112 1944 March 1 - September 14

v.113 1944 September 14 - 1945 May 20

v.114 1945 May 21 - December 15

v.115 1945 December 16 - 1946 May 30

v.116 1946 May 31 - October 17

v.117 1946 October 18 - 1947 February 27

v.118 1947 February 28 - August 1

v.119 1947 August 3 - 1948 January 11

v.120 1948 January 12 - September 17

v.121 1948 September 18 - 1949 April 30

v.122 1949 April 31 - November 16

Series IV. Miscellaneous, 1888-1949
(.5 box)

Arranged alphabetically, the seven items in this series are: an address book, clippings, library catalog, scrapbook, Secret Society materials, G.B. Shaw's galley proof and letters concerning his preface to English Prisons Today, and miscellaneous documents. Ives' address book provides cross references to his diaries and traces the members of the Order of Chaeronea. Other Secret Society materials include the Service of Initiation, 1899; Order Rules, 1933; and wax impressions from signet rings of members of the Order.

The clippings include reviews of three of Ives' published works; Eros' Throne (1900) is located in a folder, while A History of Penal Methods, (1914) and Obstacles to Human Progress, (1939) are in a bound scrapbook, volume number 127.

The library catalog for the British Society for the Study of Sex Psychology is organized alphabetically, first by title and then by author. The works represented in this catalog are in various languages and include topics such as homosexuality, flagellation, slavery, transvestism, prostitution, pornography, eunuchism, circumcision, and obscene literature.

A galley proof of G. B. Shaw's preface to English Prisions Today (1922, published by S & B Webb) is accompanied by some correspondence about the publication of the preface. The folder of miscellaneous items includes an army memorandum (1888), a bill of remittance from the Morning Post (1910), and information about the Sex Education Society lecture in 1948/49.
box folder
5 8 Address book, nd
9 Clippings, 1900
10 Library Catalogue for British Society for the Study of Sex Psychology, nd
volume
v.127 Scrapbook, 1914 and 1939
box folder
5 11 Secret Society ("The Order") rules, invitations, seals, 1899-1933
12 Shaw, G.B., preface: English Prisons Today, 1922
13 Miscellaneous documents, 1888-1949

George Cecil Ives--Index of Correspondents

*
Allen, Lafon, 1901--1.1
*
Andrian, Leopold von, 1894--1.1
*
Ashbee, Janet E., nd --1.1
*
Authors' Club, nd--1.1
*
Barker, W.E., 1910--1.1
*
Barnett, Arthur, 1897--1.1
*
Bishop, Daphne, 1905--1.1
*
Bolton, Mary P., 1911--1.1
*
Brand, Adolf, 1911--1.1
*
Bridgewater, T.N., 1918 --1.1
*
Browning, Oscar, 1892, 1912--1.1
*
Burnet, James, 1906--1.1
*
Calverley, J. Selwin, 1891--1.1
*
Cambridge University Library, 1903--1.1
*
Cantlie, Sir James, 1902--1.1
*
Carlile, Rev. W., 1903-4 --1.1
*
Carpenter, Edward, nd--1.1
*
Casey, G.C., 1894--1.1
*
Cazalet, Victor, 1916--1.1
*
Cazalet, William Marshall, 1897-1914--1.1
*
Church, William Smithers, 1909--1.1
*
Colvin, Cecil, 1915--1.1
*
Delvade, Therese, 1894-1897--1.2
*
Dewon, George A.B., 1906--1.2
*
Dolgorouki, Stephanie, 1897--1.2
*
Donaldson, Dr., 1909--1.2
*
Ducie, Countess, nd--1.2
*
Ducane, Florence V., 1896--1.2
*
Ellis, Edith, 1911--1.2
*
Ellis, Havelock, 1902-1936--1.3
*
Elsworth, M., 1893--1.2
*
Evans, Caroline A., 1894-1910--1.2
*
Evelyn, Frances, 1903--1.2
*
Evelyn, John, 1910--1.2
*
Foster, Amy, 1899--1.4
*
French, Cecil, 1902--1.4
*
Gaskell, Evelyn Milness, 1899--1.4
*
Gale, Norman, 1898--1.4
*
Gazette, Paul Mall, 1909--1.4
*
Gomme, George Lawrence, 1903--1.4
*
Greene, H.D., 1912--1.4
*
Greenhalgh, John H., 1911--1.4
*
Gyles, Althea Alfred Cort, 1902--1.4
*
Haddon, Dr. A.C., 1906--1.4
*
Hare, Augustus, J.C., 1898-1902--1.5
*
Harning, E.W., 1906--1.4
*
Hay, A.C., 1897--1.4
*
Hay, J. Stuart, 1911--1.4
*
Hayes, E.S.P., 1911--1.4
*
Herbert, A., 1891-1893--1.4
*
Heinsky, Alex, 1897--1.4
*
Hobel, Bojal C., 1920--1.4
*
Hobhouse, Margaret, 1919--1.4
*
Hobhouse, Stephen, 1917--1.4
*
Hodge, Harold, 1898-1899--1.4
*
Holmes, Thomas, 1912--1.4
*
Hopwood, Charles Henry, 1898-1904--1.4
*
Horning, Ernest William, 1903--1.54
*
Ives, Susan Ann Talbot, 1898-1899--1.6, 2.7
*
John & Edward Bumpus, Ltd., 1933--1.6
*
Johnston, Lawson, 1901--1.6
*
Jones, Ernest, 1917--1.6
*
Lacon, E.B.H., 1897-1898--1.6
*
Latimer, Frank B., Lord, 1895--1.6
*
Lewis, Taffy F., 1905--1.6
*
Lombroso, Cesare, 1899--1.6
*
MaCabe, Joseph, 1903--1.6
*
Maitland, A.J., 1898--1.6
*
Malet, Henry, 1899--1.6
*
Moore, Frank Frankfort, 1898--1.6
*
Morgan, J.C., 1895--1.6
*
Morrison, William Douglas, 1896-1912--1.7
*
Moss, Samuel, 1897-1902--1.6
*
Mountmorres, William Geoffery, 1894--1.6
*
North, C.M., 1892-1897--2.1
*
Otter-Bary, W.W., 1898--1.6
*
Oxford & Cambridge University Club, 1904--1.6
*
Paget, Leo, 1891--2.2
*
Pattrick, Agnes, 1894--2.2
*
Pitcher, William, 1903--2.2
*
Peskett, Lily, 1896--2.2
*
Prescott, E. Livingston, 1894-1898--2.2
*
Reddie Cecil, 1914--2.2
*
Sibly, F. Arthur, 1918--2.2
*
Singh, Prince Frederick, 1904-1908--2.2
*
Turner, Reggie, 1898--2.2
*
Walt, W.P., nd--2.2
*
Ward, R., nd--2.2
*
Warwick, Francis Evelyn, 1905--2.2
*
Westermarck, Edward, 1902-1911--2.3
*
Whiteside, Anna, 1874--2.7
*
Wilkins, W. Henri, 1892-1895--2.4
*
Wilkins, 1892-1908--2.2
*
Wood, Ernest G., 1893-1894--2.2
*
Worthington, Bagly, 1894--2.2
*
Wynford, C.E.M., 1901--2.2

**lynn cates** · 11-28-2009, 05:35 AM

Ives

Hello. Here is his photo. He seems to have grown up about 15 miles from Winchester. Apparently he was rather close to Oscar Wilde at one time.

LC

**lynn cates** · 11-28-2009, 05:45 AM

blurb

Hello. Here is a short blurb on Ives.

Location: 196 Adelaide Road, Lewisham, London

Description: This is the house where the German born George Ives (1867-1950) lived from 1906 to his death. He was a poet, writer, penal reformer and early gay rights campaigner.

Ives was educated at Magdalene College in Cambridge, where he started to amass 45 volumes of scrapbooks of press clippings of murders, punishments, freaks, theories of crime and punishment, transvestism, psychology of gender, homosexuality, cricket scores, and letters he wrote to newspapers.

Ives met Oscar Wilde at the Authors' Club in 1892; Wilde was taken by his boyish looks and persuaded him to shave off his moustache, and once kissed him passionately in the Travellers' Club.

In later life he developed eccentricities and developed a passion for melons, filling this house with them.

When the Second World War ended he allegedly refused to believe it and carried a gas mask with him everywhere in a case until his death.

Throughout his life, Ives had many lovers whom he called his children. He took care of them, gave them money and bought them houses. He often lived with more than one lover at a time and some stayed with him several years.

Eccentric George Cecil Ives

http://www.shadyoldlady.com/location.php?loc=1347

This is where... on the Shady Old Lady's Guide to London.

LC

**lynn cates** · 11-28-2009, 06:10 AM

order

Hello. Here is a description of the secret order founded by Ives.

The Order of Chaeronea was a secret society
Secret society

Secret society is a term used to describe a variety of organizations. Although the exact meaning of the term is disputed, several of the definitions advanced indicate a degree of secrecy and secret knowledge, which might include denying membership or knowledge of the group, negative consequences for acknowledging one's membership, strong ties...
for the cultivation of a homosexual moral, ethical, cutural and spiritual ethos. It was founded by George Cecil Ives
George Cecil Ives

George Ives was a Germany-England poet, writer, penal reformer and early gay rights campaigner....
in 1897, as a result of his realisation that the "Cause" (the end of the oppression of homosexuals) would not be accepted openly in society and must therefore have a means of underground communication. The society is named after the location of the battle
Battle of Chaeronea (338 BC)

The Battle of Chaeronea 338 BC, fought near Chaeronea, in Boeotia, was the greatest victory of Philip II of Macedon. There, Philip defeated the combined forces of Classical Athens and Ancient Thebes and initiated Macedonian hegemony in Greece....
where the Sacred Band of Thebes
Sacred Band of Thebes

The Sacred Band of Ancient Thebes was a troop of picked soldiers, numbering 150 age-structured pairs, which formed the elite force of the Theban army in the 4th century BC....
was finally annihilated in 338 BC.

Nature of the organisation
Ives and other members dated letters and other materials from the year of the Battle of Chaeronea, so that 1899 would be written as C2237. An elaborate system of rituals, ceremonies, a service of initiation, seals, codes, and passwords were used by the members. The Secret Society became a worldwide organisation, and Ives took advantage of every opportunity to spread the word about the "Cause."

The Order, according to Ives' notebooks, had a specific purpose, distinct prescriptions and philosophy, and its particular symbolism: the "sign-word" AMRRHAO and "the seal of the double wreath." The prerequisites of membership are indicated to be "Zeal, Learning and Discipline." The principle of secrecy is conveyed by the metaphor of "The Chain" underlining that one should never reveal any information about the order or its members.

In Ives' words: "We believe in the glory of passion. We believe in the inspiration of emotion. We believe in the holiness of love. Now some in the world without have been asking as to our faith, and mostly we find that we have no answer for them. Scoffers there be, to whom we need not reply, and foolish ones to whom our words would convey no meaning. For what are words? Symbols of kindred comprehended conceptions, and like makes appeal to like."

Members included Charles Kains Jackson
Charles Kains Jackson

Charles Philip Castle Kains Jackson was an English poet closely associated with the Uranian poetry....
, Samuel Elsworth Cottam, Montague Summers
Montague Summers

Augustus Montague Summers was an eccentric England author and clergyman. He is known primarily for his 1928 English translation of the Middle Ages witch hunter's manual, the Malleus Maleficarum, as well as for several studies on witches, vampires, and werewolf, in all of which he professed to believe....
, Laurence Housman
Laurence Housman

Laurence Housman was an English playwright, writer and illustrator.The younger brother of the poet A. E. Housman, Laurence Housman was born in Bromsgrove, Worcestershire....
, John Gambril Nicholson
John Gambril Nicholson

John Gambril Francis Nicholson was an England school teacher, Uranian poet, and an amateur photographer. He was the quintessential Uranian, forming the center of that semi-underground world, and frequently writing introductions for and receiving dedications from his peers....
and Oscar Wilde
Oscar Wilde

Oscar Fingal O'Flahertie Wills Wilde was an Irish people playwright, Irish poetry and author of numerous short stories and one novel. Known for his biting wit, he became one of the most successful playwrights of the late Victorian era in London, and one of the greatest Celebrity of his day....
. It is thought that Charles Robert Ashbee
Charles Robert Ashbee

Charles Robert Ashbee was a designer and entrepreneur who was a prime mover of the English Arts and Crafts movement that took its craft ethic from the works of John Ruskin and its co-operative structure from the socialism of William Morris....
was a member. In his voluminous writings, Ives refers to Walt Whitman
Walt Whitman

Walter Whitman was an United States Poetry of the United States, essayist, journalism, and humanism. He was a part of the transition between Transcendentalism and literary realism, incorporating both views in his works....
as "The Prophet" and used lines from Whitman's poetry in the ritual and ceremony of the Order.

Long believed extinct, the late 1990s saw a semi-successful effort to reconstitute the Order of Chaerona along Freemasonic lines of doctrine, governance and ritual principally undertaken by the Moorish Orthodox Church's Bishop of New Jersey, the Rt Rev. Sotemohk A. Beeyayelel. Dr Beeyayelel was appointed as Grand Master of a newly instituted Grand Lodge of a revived Sovereign Military Order of Chaerona which today has affiliates in New Jersey, Kentucky, and Missouri (USA), the United Kingdom, France and the Republic of Equatorial Guinea and South Africa. The new Order is an affiliate of the Union of Radical Magi.

Order of Chaeronea - AbsoluteAstronomy.com

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Order_of_Chaeronea

LC

**Mike Covell** · 11-28-2009, 05:18 PM

Ives on Wiki,

George Cecil Ives - Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cecil_Ives

**lynn cates** · 11-28-2009, 08:40 PM

cricket fan

Hello Mike. Thanks.

I am keen on this chap since he was not interested only in unsolved crimes and sex research, but he also was an avid cricket fan and grew up near Winchester. Since he was gay, perhaps he knew something about Druitt's being sacked by Valentine--given, of course, that it was for the most commonly proffered reason.

The best.
LC

**Mike Covell** · 11-28-2009, 11:43 PM

Good luck in your search of his works and diaries Lynn, sounds like an interesting avenue of research.

**Phil Carter** · 11-29-2009, 05:03 AM

Originally posted by lynn cates View Post

Hello Mike. Thanks.

I am keen on this chap since he was not interested only in unsolved crimes and sex research, but he also was an avid cricket fan and grew up near Winchester. Since he was gay, perhaps he knew something about Druitt's being sacked by Valentine--given, of course, that it was for the most commonly proffered reason.

The best.
LC

Hello Lynn,

I will see what I can come up with. I am going to London shortly and will do some digging there. This sounds a very interesting avenue, as Mike says.

best wishes

Phil

**corey123** · 11-29-2009, 05:08 AM

hey lynn

i was thinking today about ives.first of all he was gay was he not??and so is tumblerty supposedly at least curious of homosexuality nature??maybe he has something or two about tumblerty in those diarys??i mean it would cross his two interests:unsolved crimes and gay liberation..just a though.

yours truly

**lynn cates** · 11-29-2009, 05:33 AM

hopes

Hello Phil. Thanks for that. On my end, if I can squeeze out even a snippet about Druitt or Tumblety, or maybe a conjecture about the WC murders, it will repay the effort.

I can hardly wait the 2 weeks until holiday!

The best.
LC

**lynn cates** · 11-29-2009, 05:37 AM

Dr T/"Dr" D

Hello Corey. Thanks. Tumblety is one name I am looking for.

Of course, anything about Druitt is welcome. Ives was a cricket fan and Druitt played cricket and was alleged to be gay. Possibly I can find a snippet that would either exonerate Druitt or else strengthen his candidacy. It is obviously slow, painful work.

The best.
LC

**corey123** · 11-29-2009, 05:47 AM

yes

yor welcom.i can only imagine your exitement on the issue.and how hard it will be to find more on it.if only the diarys text was availiable on the web.

another thing is im trying to find a connection with the pinchin street torso and the ripper murders.by one ticey little speck of evidence that may alienate the pinchin torso from the other torso murders..maybe you have some thoughts on that??

p.s. have you ever thought of going to veiw the diarys? i believe they are availiable like you said in that library.
yours truly

**lynn cates** · 11-29-2009, 05:53 AM

sundry

Hello Corey. I have little to add to the torso murder discussion. SY regarded them separately; Why? I confess I don't know.

Yes, I plan to have a go at the library in a couple of weeks when my schedule lightens up a bit. Wish me luck.

The best.
LC

**corey123** · 11-29-2009, 05:56 AM

great

i hope you do go.then maybe you can come up with some more to add to this case maybe take away some of the blur around some of the suspects,if so it may help us better understand there ways and help prove/disprove the suspicions

good luck

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