Jack the Ripper Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety

[Steadmund Brand]

Or a tone deaf piano tuner if he actually liked Spandau Ballet enough to write a book about them.

Love,

Caz
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WOW.....I um.... yeah... WOW

Steadmund Brand

[caz]

I can see it now, “Orsam: My Life As A Tibetan Yak Farmer.”

I’d buy it

Or a tone deaf piano tuner if he actually liked Spandau Ballet enough to write a book about them.

Love,

Caz
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[Herlock Sholmes]

You seem to be having just about as much success as I am in getting any kind of direct or sensible answers to questions from him, Herlock.

I wonder why

[David Orsam]

I really dont understand why, if you evidence of errors that David has made, you wont reveal them?

What’s preventing anyone from saying that they can prove or disprove anything? Surely they have to be presented for debate to be taken seriously?

You seem to be having just about as much success as I am in getting any kind of direct or sensible answers to questions from him, Herlock.

[David Orsam]

Sorry,

I don't recognize you as a peer.

Fine, but it was you who first raised the concept of "peer review" when commenting on my own online articles in the Suckered! Trilogy (and, indeed, attempting to correct one of them!). A little bit hypocritical for you not to be able to handle someone correcting your own work, no?

It's not peer review what you do, but an attempt to antagonize authors into debating you.

This is just another unsubstantiated and false theory about my motives, about which you simply have not a clue.

You then go on endless postings until the author is exhausted.

So is this what YOU are trying to do? Exhaust me with nonsense? If you had responded sensibly, rationally and proportionately to my original posts, this discussion would have been over some days ago.

Do you do anything else in your life?

I thought you knew everything about me. Surprised to find you asking me a question. Why not just speculate furiously as usual?

You then change your online articles by using lawyer's tricks of minimalizing evidence. I now have numerous examples of this and I will not be posting them here.

I know you won't be posting any "examples" here because this is a complete lie.

Hurry up with your book!

On the magic mushrooms again Mike?

[Herlock Sholmes]

I really dont understand why, if you evidence of errors that David has made, you wont reveal them?

What’s preventing anyone from saying that they can prove or disprove anything? Surely they have to be presented for debate to be taken seriously?

[mklhawley]

Oops, sorry, I was supposed to wait for your dozen posts. Till tomorrow.

[mklhawley]

Sorry,

I don't recognize you as a peer. It's not peer review what you do, but an attempt to antagonize authors into debating you. You then go on endless postings until the author is exhausted. Do you do anything else in your life? You then change your online articles by using lawyer's tricks of minimalizing evidence. I now have numerous examples of this and I will not be posting them here.

Hurry up with your book!

[David Orsam]

As Mike is now apparently writing a third book, it becomes even more important that he understands how overwhelming the evidence is that the deployment of the 12 constables had nothing to do with Tumblety.

This is the complete text of a letter written by Sir Charles Warren to the Under Secretary of State at the Home Office dated 23rd October 1888. I should say that I incorrectly date this letter to 22nd October 1888 in my online article, which I will correct at the next opportunity, and the file reference in the National Archives is HO/9686/A48584 (not A484584 as the article has it):

"Sir,

With reference to your letter of the 5th ulto, A48584/10, I have to acquaint you for the information of the Secretary of State that I have directed the necessary enquiries to be made and have ascertained the particulars as to the number of trains which will arrive at Euston daily with passengers from America, and the hours of their arrival; and as two Police Constables must be present at each examination of luggage, I find it necessary to have three reliefs, thus requiring an augmentation of six Police Constables.

I have therefore to ask for authority for this increase. I should explain, however, that one of the three reliefs will be required to deal with passengers arriving during the night, and until the frequency of such arrivals has been tested only four Constables will be actually appointed under the authority now sought.

The Midland Railway Company will no doubt apply to have similar arrangements made at St Pancras Station, and this will necessitate my seeking a still further increase of six Constables for that duty.

The cost of the augmentation shall be chargeable to the Special Vote.

I am,

Sir,

Your most obedient servant,

[Signed: C. Warren]"

It will be noted that the Chief Commissioner is seeking authority for the deployment of 12 constables at the two London train stations BEFORE Tumblety has even been arrested.

[David Orsam]

And David doesn't hate my guts.

I don't know why you seem to think so Mike. Have you forgotten the concept of "peer review" which you spoke to me about in 2015? Nothing I have said about your work, or the work of any of the many other authors or writers which I have examined, is personal in any way. I mean, I've never even met you or spoken to you. I simply noticed some errors and some things I didn't agree with in your books and, after having carried out some basic research where necessary, wrote about them. You seem to have turned it into a personal attack (and I don't even want to know if you hate my guts or not!) but it isn't.

I wish you had simply concentrated on the actual points I have made in my article and in this thread rather than obsessing about me personally.

[Steadmund Brand]

Close, but more likely to be titled: "I Hate His Guts: My Life As A Retired Tibetan Yak Farmer and Writer of Imaginary Books".

How about: David- Paralegal? Ripper writer? Possible Yak farmer.

Something tells me Orsam books would not publish...but I would read it....

However, there are a few other modern researchers that Jonathan did not mention, 3 of which I know for sure at least (one who is absolutely brilliant..and frighteningly handsome to boot)...but that is neither here nor there at this point.

Steadmund Brand

[mklhawley]

Hey Herlock,

David's got a few more hours of incessant posting in him. I have to be off for a few hours. Do you mind if you can keep him company?

Thanks,

And David doesn't hate my guts.

[David Orsam]

I can see it now, “Orsam: My Life As A Tibetan Yak Farmer.”

I’d buy it

Close, but more likely to be titled: "I Hate His Guts: My Life As A Retired Tibetan Yak Farmer and Writer of Imaginary Books".

[David Orsam]

Nice back up David!

I wish I knew what this even means.

[mklhawley]

Im learning more and more.

There appears to be developing an entire Orsam (or Barrat) mythology?

You are a retired Paralegal - apparently untue

You are writing a JTR book - apparently untrue

You have a deep-seated hatred of Mike - apparently untrue

David, are you sure that you are certain of who you are? Might you be mistaken? Perhaps you might find out some more ‘facts’ about youself in the near future which will lead to you discovering your own true identity.

Hey, we have an Orsam-ophile! By your own admission, Herlock, you know nothing about the subject. Nice back up David!