Jack the Ripper Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety

[Abby Normal]

I look forward to reading the Mikes book on this fascinating individual. I have also been meaning to read Prince of Quacks, which as I understand it is the essential book on Tumblety??

I have always considered T as a viable ripper suspect but only slightly.

IMHO he was way too ostentatious and dosnt fit any of the witness descriptions (some of whom I'm sure saw the ripper).

Plus he was gay correct? if that's an undisputed fact than hes probably out in my view.

that being said I understand there are some new significant finds by Mike, including evidence of knives and surgical tools owned by T, which is pretty big IMHO.

congrats on your research and book Mike.

[Herlock Sholmes]

He got a hundred or two pledged on Kickstarter then it died the death it deserved.

200 idiots pledged $1 each

[GUT]

You might be able to Stead but happily Dale (the Van Gogh man) is having to try to raise money to get his nonsense published because no one with a brain will touch it with a barge pole. I believe 100% in freedom of speech (without exception) but its incumbent on people to show ethical judgement. The fact that van Gogh was in France at the time of the murders and utterly penniless should deter anyone from a character assassination but sadly its not the case. Likewise the Doyle book. An author that we know so much about. A particular hero of mine as you might guess from my name. As you will know, there is not a single, solitary smidgeon of evidence again him and yet the character assassination went on. Its very, very sad what people will do for nothing other than cash or five minutes of infamy.

He got a hundred or two pledged on Kickstarter then it died the death it deserved.

[Robert]

Very nice songs, David.

[David Orsam]

Thanks. Great chillax songs by the way.

Thanks Abby.

[David Orsam]

Impressive stuff David. Hats off to you. And thats a compliment from a progressive rock fan whose favourite songs tend to have 20 minute keyboard solo’s in them played by a man in a luminous cape

Thank you Herlock!

[Abby Normal]

Hi Abby,

No, I'm not on the track at all - am very much a non-performing songwriter. Have learnt to play chords on a keyboard (which is how I now write songs) but that's the extent of my musical ability.

Thank you for ordering my book, I do hope you enjoy it!

Thanks. Great chillax songs by the way.

[Ozzy]

David....

I have to say I am with Mike on his argument... but I am with you on Spandau Ballet (but as far as early electronic musicians go Bill Nelson was FAR BETTER!!)...so see...we can all be friends!!!

I must say....I would love to read the Spandau Ballet book.. but unavailable here thru amazon

Steadmund Brand

Bill Nelson. I haven't heard that name for years. Never got into Be Bop Deluxe or Red Noise myself. I see he's still going strong though which is good to see.

Stockhausen surely? if you're after early electronic music.
Actually, I've listened to it but find it's more something you listen to once to experience, and that's it.

Personally I enjoy Can and Neu the most from that period. Post punk brought some interesting stuff around 1978-80. The prog new wave of Magazine I enjoy. Around that time I thought it's good to see men have stopped dressing up so ridiculously after the glam era. But then came new romantic and it all started again.

Rant over. The normal rants can continue.

[Herlock Sholmes]

As this thread seems to have morphed into a thread about me and then into one about Spandau Ballet, perhaps I can combine the two topics and provide some more information for the file which Mike Hawley appears to be compiling on me (inaccurately so far).

As an amateur songwriter, I had the pleasure a few years ago of recording one of my songs with the legendary Steve Norman, the sax player from Spandau Ballet. He performed a great sax solo on the track, comparable in my opinion with his solo on 'True', and anyone who is interested in hearing this can find the song here:

http://www.themusichutch.com/listen-song/christian-fontana-featuring-steve-norman-on-saxophone-a-night-like-this-barratfontana/28221/

p.s. I actually recorded two songs with Steve (with him playing another great solo), the second one being here:

http://www.themusichutch.com/listen-...fontana/28222/

Impressive stuff David. Hats off to you. And thats a compliment from a progressive rock fan whose favourite songs tend to have 20 minute keyboard solo’s in them played by a man in a luminous cape

[David Orsam]

Hi David
do you play an instrument also on the track? or in general?

also, ordered your book on SB a couple of weeks ago. looking forwar to reading it!

Hi Abby,

No, I'm not on the track at all - am very much a non-performing songwriter. Have learnt to play chords on a keyboard (which is how I now write songs) but that's the extent of my musical ability.

Thank you for ordering my book, I do hope you enjoy it!

[Abby Normal]

As this thread seems to have morphed into a thread about me and then into one about Spandau Ballet, perhaps I can combine the two topics and provide some more information for the file which Mike Hawley appears to be compiling on me (inaccurately so far).

As an amateur songwriter, I had the pleasure a few years ago of recording one of my songs with the legendary Steve Norman, the sax player from Spandau Ballet. He performed a great sax solo on the track, comparable in my opinion with his solo on 'True', and anyone who is interested in hearing this can find the song here:

http://www.themusichutch.com/listen-song/christian-fontana-featuring-steve-norman-on-saxophone-a-night-like-this-barratfontana/28221/

p.s. I actually recorded two songs with Steve (with him playing another great solo), the second one being here:

http://www.themusichutch.com/listen-...fontana/28222/

Hi David
do you play an instrument also on the track? or in general?

also, ordered your book on SB a couple of weeks ago. looking forwar to reading it!

[David Orsam]

This is the complete text of a letter written by Sir Charles Warren to the Under Secretary of State at the Home Office dated 23rd October 1888. I should say that I incorrectly date this letter to 22nd October 1888 in my online article, which I will correct at the next opportunity, and the file reference in the National Archives is HO/9686/A48584 (not A484584 as the article has it):

"Sir,

With reference to your letter of the 5th ulto, A48584/10, I have to acquaint you for the information of the Secretary of State that I have directed the necessary enquiries to be made and have ascertained the particulars as to the number of trains which will arrive at Euston daily with passengers from America, and the hours of their arrival; and as two Police Constables must be present at each examination of luggage, I find it necessary to have three reliefs, thus requiring an augmentation of six Police Constables.

I have therefore to ask for authority for this increase. I should explain, however, that one of the three reliefs will be required to deal with passengers arriving during the night, and until the frequency of such arrivals has been tested only four Constables will be actually appointed under the authority now sought.

The Midland Railway Company will no doubt apply to have similar arrangements made at St Pancras Station, and this will necessitate my seeking a still further increase of six Constables for that duty.

The cost of the augmentation shall be chargeable to the Special Vote.

I am,

Sir,

Your most obedient servant,

[Signed: C. Warren]"

It will be noted that the Chief Commissioner is seeking authority for the deployment of 12 constables at the two London train stations BEFORE Tumblety has even been arrested.

Getting this thread back on topic, it will be seen above that Sir Charles Warren was replying to a Home Office letter dated 5th September 1888. This is the text of that letter:

Sir,

With reference to your letter of the 2nd July last and previous correspondence regarding the proposal that the through baggage of passengers from America should be examined in London instead of at Liverpool I am directed by the Secretary of State to say that he is anxious in the interest of public convenience to assent to this proposal if satisfactory arrangements for the purpose can be made; and I am to transmit copy of a letter from the Inman and International Steamship Company giving details of the arrangements which they would propose to adopt, and of the provision which they would make for the attendance of the Police; and to request the favour of your observations therein.

I am,

Sir,

Your obedient servant,

[Signed]

[David Orsam]

As this thread seems to have morphed into a thread about me and then into one about Spandau Ballet, perhaps I can combine the two topics and provide some more information for the file which Mike Hawley appears to be compiling on me (inaccurately so far).

As an amateur songwriter, I had the pleasure a few years ago of recording one of my songs with the legendary Steve Norman, the sax player from Spandau Ballet. He performed a great sax solo on the track, comparable in my opinion with his solo on 'True', and anyone who is interested in hearing this can find the song here:

http://www.themusichutch.com/listen-song/christian-fontana-featuring-steve-norman-on-saxophone-a-night-like-this-barratfontana/28221/

p.s. I actually recorded two songs with Steve (with him playing another great solo), the second one being here:

http://www.themusichutch.com/listen-song/christian-fontana-featuring-steve-norman-on-saxophone-time-barratfontana/28222/

[Herlock Sholmes]

Kraftwerk! I heard about them because my first roommate in college used to work out to them. LOL. hed dancy himself into a sweaty frenzy!

Im certainly not a dancer Abby

[Abby Normal]

Im quite partial to a bit of Kraftwerk Stead

Kraftwerk! I heard about them because my first roommate in college used to work out to them. LOL. hed dancy himself into a sweaty frenzy!