Descriptions.

[GBinOz]

There are a bunch of witnesses I consider solid witnesses but who I think might be irrelevant. All of the Berner Street witnesses before Schwartz, for instance. Possibly Long. I haven't figured out the Dorset Street crowd, but I'm pretty sure the woman Maurice Lewis was talking about wasn't MJK. The ones I put more faith in (recognizing it may be misplaced) are Lawende (both the Met and City Police appear to have liked him), Schwartz (in spite of the fact all investigators forgot he existed by Dec. 1888), Brown (in spite of how modern writers have totally f-d up their handling of his evidence), and possibly some of the non-murder witnesses who survived an assault in the area around that time. Might be something in those. I feel like I'm forgetting someone.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Any thoughts on Mrs Maxwell Tom?

[Tom_Wescott]

Any thoughts on Mrs Maxwell Tom?

As a general rule, I believe nothing from the mouths of lodging house keepers. I have no idea if had confused Catherine Pickett or someone else for Kelly, had the day wrong, or was lying. But she did not see Kelly in the broad daylight on the 9th. That didn't happen.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[GBinOz]

We all know that Cadosche heard Chapman hitting the fence.

So what was Jack doing with Chapman in the four or so minutes between her cry of "No" and her hitting the fence? Were I inclined to believe that a murder was in progress I would suggest that it was Jack bumping the fence in an attempt at concealing himself from Cadosch returning from his second trip to the Loo.

[Tom_Wescott]

So what was Jack doing with Chapman in the four or so minutes between her cry of "No" and her hitting the fence? Were I inclined to believe that a murder was in progress I would suggest that it was Jack bumping the fence in an attempt at concealing himself from Cadosch returning from his second trip to the Loo.

He was robbing her.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[New Waterloo]

I dont think anyone would like this but because the thread is about descriptions it needs to be said. The so called Pensioner Ted Stanley often changed his appearance and used a different name (according to some). Sometimes the appearance of a Dock labourer sometimes Shabby gentile. Sometimes the appearance of a soldier. (Upright) Often used the surname Wand.

Even if he is not JTR (probably not) it does show how clothes worn when seen by witnesses shape our views of who the person is. I mean the type of person. As they say ‘clothes maketh the man’

NW

[New Waterloo]

Sorry should ref shabby genteel.