An even closer look at Black Bag Man

[Trevor Marriott]

At the time would the presence, or otherwise, of Spooner's female companion be considered relevant?

I'm not sure that I have sufficient suspicion as to constitute the creation of evil plots. I am really just noticing curiosities and anomalies in time lines and testimony for possible comment.

There is a simpler explanation: if Stride was prostituting herself outside the club, she would have probably propositioned almost every man who passed by, who's to say one of those men pushed her aside and she fell to the ground

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[NotBlamedForNothing]

If Schwartz steps off the SE intersection curb, and sees Pipeman advance towards him from the direction of the Nelson, and proceeds to run in the direction of his new home (south along Berner) then Pipeman is now behind him, and Schwartz assumes the advance is continuing. When I used to watch movies with my father and the hero was attempting to escape from heavily armed villains he used to say to the onscreen hero "if you're running away, don't look back, run away".

If Schwartz ran to a railway arch, he goes a lot further than he needs to, to get home. If Pipeman only walks, regardless of how many steps you suppose he took, Schwartz would easily outpace him, allowing him to quickly run home and go inside. Why then, the extra journey? Presumably Schwartz confirmed with Abberline that he was visibly aware of Pipeman running in his direction, who eventually seems to give up the chase or feel he is at a safe distance. I also presume Schwartz would not double-back from the rail arch, to get home, but rather take the long way home.

But not considered worthy of comment at an inquest? It may well be that literature was left and picked up as a matter of daily routine.

So, the parcel either contained grapes or literature. The lack of comment at the inquest (except by Smith) suggests it wasn't left in the editor's office.

Is that also presuming that beside each name and address (which Spooner could have given to Lamb) there is a tick able box labelled "Searched" and another space for Phillip's signature indicating "Examined"? Or was there a presumption that if they were let leave these tasks had been performed?

I think each name and address would have been taken down as each person was searched and examined. Spooner was surely on Reid's list, implying he was still there when Phillips arrived, or that he had special permission to leave early, and his name and address were prepended to the list. What else could be the source of that special permission, if not his association with the WVC? So curious that Spooner mentions Mr Harris hearing the early whistle, which could only have been due to a WVC patrolman equipped with a police whistle.

At the time would the presence, or otherwise, of Spooner's female companion be considered relevant?

Yes, if the police wanted to know what became of her on the street, as we do.

What do you find of most importance, Spooner's lady friend or Goldstein's visit to the cafe?

I'm not sure that I have sufficient suspicion as to constitute the creation of evil plots. I am really just noticing curiosities and anomalies in time lines and testimony for possible comment.

Understood. So, one more question. In your scenario, why doesn't Eagle tell the truth? He risks being identified by Schwartz, doesn't he?

[GBinOz]

So curious that Spooner mentions Mr Harris hearing the early whistle, which could only have been due to a WVC patrolman equipped with a police whistle.
IMO the whistling came from the yard - there was an Isaacs and a Jacobs listed as WVC committee members.

Yes, if the police wanted to know what became of her on the street, as we do.
What do you find of most importance, Spooner's lady friend or Goldstein's visit to the cafe?
Goldstein.

So, one more question. In your scenario, why doesn't Eagle tell the truth? He risks being identified by Schwartz, doesn't he?

That is a very good point. Both Eagle and Spooner (and Lave as Pipeman), if involved, would have risked being identified by Schwartz had Schwartz been asked to make identifications.