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  • Would love to know what Donald Rumbelow thoughts would be on these possible alterations.
    Last edited by mpriestnall; 10-24-2022, 08:33 PM.

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    • Which alterations ?
      My name is Dave. You cannot reach me through Debs email account

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      • Originally posted by DJA View Post
        Which alterations ?
        Hi DJA, I referring to what was stated in posts numbers 399 and 400.

        I said "possible" alterations aka alleged alterations per these posts

        I have an open mind to all this and I admit I'm not as familiar with the MJK pictures as perhaps I should be.

        Maybe a comparison of different versions of the MJK picture in question might be useful?

        Wicks info referencing the observations from two authorities (Bond and Hibbert) from a primary source re the mutilations around the eyes, clearly weakens the case for the reliability of using the eyes for identification. Altered pictures or not.

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        • I was inferring there were no alterations to the 'photo.

          What we see is the result of boiling water applied to Mary Kelly's maxilla.

          Was explained by an imminent medical researcher on these boards several years ago.

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          • I can make out the mouth and the nose fine. It's the eyes that are a mystery to me.
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            ​​If you'd told me the killer had destroyed Mary Kelly's eyes, I'd have no cause to disbelieve you.

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            • Just my opinion but could the circled part in DJA's post [ 4220 ], be a stab wound, similar to the one's on Mary's left arm ?

              Regards Darryl

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              • I cant make out ANY facial features at all
                "Is all that we see or seem
                but a dream within a dream?"

                -Edgar Allan Poe


                "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                -Frederick G. Abberline

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                • Time for a new brain.

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                  • Originally posted by DJA View Post
                    Time for a new brain.

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                    lol! as long as its abnormal too! hilarious pic!!!
                    "Is all that we see or seem
                    but a dream within a dream?"

                    -Edgar Allan Poe


                    "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                    quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                    -Frederick G. Abberline

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                    • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                      I cant make out ANY facial features at all
                      I'll do my best for your Abby:

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                      • Originally posted by Harry D View Post

                        I'll do my best for your Abby:

                        Good job, Harry. But the eyes are still a struggle which is odd as Barnett claims they were a crucial part of his identification.

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                        • Originally posted by Harry D View Post

                          I'll do my best for your Abby:

                          thanks harry
                          i do see it now, but seems off center a bit. but you may be right.
                          "Is all that we see or seem
                          but a dream within a dream?"

                          -Edgar Allan Poe


                          "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                          quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                          -Frederick G. Abberline

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                          • Originally posted by etenguy View Post

                            Good job, Harry. But the eyes are still a struggle which is odd as Barnett claims they were a crucial part of his identification.
                            Thanks eten. Yeah the eyes are a bugger. I can't make them out at all.

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                            • Originally posted by DJA View Post
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                              DJA et al

                              I was always under the impression that the piece circled in DJA's photo was a shadow formed by a flap of skin which was hanging off her forehead and covering her right eye. To me, currently, it looks like a piece of flesh which was cut/"skinned away" extending from the center of her forehead to her right temple & down along the right side of her face (alongside her right cheek). And, the flap of skin is hanging over.

                              there,s nothing new, only the unexplored

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                              • The possible placement of the eye proposed by DJA is (to my eye) too high and too central to the position of the face/skull/head as we see photographed. Unless the lady in question was a cyclops then the cranial features do not lend to an eye socket in such a placement

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