I've just caught up with this thread whilst I don't have definitive opinion either way about the truth of timings, I noticed that there are some loose interpretations of the infomation we do have.
Most of the witness's put Diemshitz coming back at 1:00a.m., some give conflicting times, and only two give a 12:45 time.
The two are Hesberg and Kosebrodsky. Hesberg is careful to qualify is estimate as a guess and Kosebrodsky could hardly speak English and so was consequently open to misinterpretation. Both these need to be regarded as dubious sources.
P.C. Lamb initially says he was called "shortly before 1:00, but goes on to say Blackwell arrived 10 minutes after him, which confirms Diemshitz's time.
Spooner is quoted as standing with his girlfriend from 12:30 -1:00 again supporting Diemshitz's timing. Ditto, Lave who is in the yard for 10 up to 30 minutes. Both these witness can legitimately be used by people arguing either the early or later timings.
The Arbeter Fraint (Krantz?) gives Diemshitz's arrival as 1:00, as does Eagle and Diemshitz himself. Blackwell claims to have been woken at 1:10, Johnston a little vaguer at just past 1:00 both reflect Diemshitz's declared arrival time. Mortimer and Goldstein also support Diemshitz.
More specifically about horses passing Mortimer's window, Diemshitz stabled his horse in Georges yard, Cable Street, but stored his goods at Berner Street. *IF* he did take his horse home before the police arrived (which the press reports say he didn't) he would NOT have passed Mortimer's window as it is in the opposite direction.
Elizabeth Strides murder may well have taken place earlier, but the is no credible evidence from the witnesses statements of events to prove the theory.
Most of the witness's put Diemshitz coming back at 1:00a.m., some give conflicting times, and only two give a 12:45 time.
The two are Hesberg and Kosebrodsky. Hesberg is careful to qualify is estimate as a guess and Kosebrodsky could hardly speak English and so was consequently open to misinterpretation. Both these need to be regarded as dubious sources.
P.C. Lamb initially says he was called "shortly before 1:00, but goes on to say Blackwell arrived 10 minutes after him, which confirms Diemshitz's time.
Spooner is quoted as standing with his girlfriend from 12:30 -1:00 again supporting Diemshitz's timing. Ditto, Lave who is in the yard for 10 up to 30 minutes. Both these witness can legitimately be used by people arguing either the early or later timings.
The Arbeter Fraint (Krantz?) gives Diemshitz's arrival as 1:00, as does Eagle and Diemshitz himself. Blackwell claims to have been woken at 1:10, Johnston a little vaguer at just past 1:00 both reflect Diemshitz's declared arrival time. Mortimer and Goldstein also support Diemshitz.
More specifically about horses passing Mortimer's window, Diemshitz stabled his horse in Georges yard, Cable Street, but stored his goods at Berner Street. *IF* he did take his horse home before the police arrived (which the press reports say he didn't) he would NOT have passed Mortimer's window as it is in the opposite direction.
Elizabeth Strides murder may well have taken place earlier, but the is no credible evidence from the witnesses statements of events to prove the theory.
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