Jack McCarthy speech on Dorset Street

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  • Scott Nelson
    Superintendent
    • Feb 2008
    • 2518

    #91
    Originally posted by seanr View Post

    Which John/ Jack McCarthy do you believe gave the speech rebutting the claims in the Daily Mail article on the Worst Street in London, which was covered in Boxing World and the Mirror of Life? Was it the boxing promoter John McCarthy or the grocer?
    The boxing promoter John McCarthy.

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    • Scott Nelson
      Superintendent
      • Feb 2008
      • 2518

      #92
      Originally posted by seanr View Post
      If John McCarthy did own a hitherto unknown and undiscovered palace in Spitalfields, he would have no need to fake his residency at 27 Dorset Street in the census over multiple decades in a scheme to maintain his voting rights, as an alternative address in Spitalfields would have sufficed to secure his qualification as a voter.
      What if there were a bit more to it than that? Not just voting rights, but the right to sell wholesale goods to the poor locals at discount prices, provided you were also registered as a resident. Or a diversionary false residence to avoid rival sporting mobs?

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      • seanr
        Sergeant
        • Dec 2018
        • 501

        #93
        Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post

        The boxing promoter John McCarthy.
        So, when he says:

        Originally posted by Jack McCarthy

        Here he mentions the career of the doss houses, I suppose our places are doss houses, theirs are homes [...] I do not go out for holidays, but stop in Dorset Street because the air agrees with me.
        In front of an estimated 400 people, including many residents of Dorset Street who would be able to call him out on this and might have the mood to do so, how do you explain that?

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        • The Rookie Detective
          Superintendent
          • Apr 2019
          • 2262

          #94
          Originally posted by seanr View Post

          So, when he says:



          In front of an estimated 400 people, including many residents of Dorset Street who would be able to call him out on this and might have the mood to do so, how do you explain that?
          I think this quote perhaps illustrates that even if they could call him out...nobody would have dared to.

          I think "ol Jack Mccarthy" was more feared that we care to realise.
          "Great minds, don't think alike"

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          • Scott Nelson
            Superintendent
            • Feb 2008
            • 2518

            #95
            Originally posted by seanr View Post

            So, when he says:

            In front of an estimated 400 people, including many residents of Dorset Street who would be able to call him out on this and might have the mood to do so, how do you explain that?
            I don't know. Is the implication that McCarthy somehow preferred or was attempting to convey that he didn't mind the atmosphere of the Dorset Street area?

            I know he owned several doss houses toward the other end and probably didn't mind managing them. Millers Court was a different story as it was not his responsibility.

            (probably not the answer you wanted to read)

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            • seanr
              Sergeant
              • Dec 2018
              • 501

              #96
              Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post

              I don't know. Is the implication that McCarthy somehow preferred or was attempting to convey that he didn't mind the atmosphere of the Dorset Street area?

              I know he owned several doss houses toward the other end and probably didn't mind managing them. Millers Court was a different story as it was not his responsibility.

              (probably not the answer you wanted to read)
              I had no particular answer in mind.

              He says 'our places', suggesting that his home is covered by the term 'doss houses' as used by McKenzie's in his article.

              'I do not go out for holidays, but stop in Dorset Street' clearly means that when he takes a holiday, he stays in Dorset Street. He stays in Dorset Street, because he is already in Dorset Street as he lived in Dorset Street.

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              • seanr
                Sergeant
                • Dec 2018
                • 501

                #97
                Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post

                What if there were a bit more to it than that? Not just voting rights, but the right to sell wholesale goods to the poor locals at discount prices, provided you were also registered as a resident. Or a diversionary false residence to avoid rival sporting mobs?
                'the right to sell wholesale goods to the poor locals at discount prices, provided you were also registered as a resident.' - is this even a thing that exists? This sounds like nonsense.

                Rather than these bizarre convuluted schemes of dubious benefit, for which no evidence in support of their existence seems to be forthcoming, Occams' Razor would lead us to the simpler conclusion that he just lived where he said he did.

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