Jack McCarthy speech on Dorset Street

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  • c.d.
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 6777

    #61
    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

    But why mutilate Kelly to that extent?
    My post to R.D. was tongue in cheek, John. Guess that got lost in the shuffle.

    c.d.

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    • John Wheat
      Assistant Commissioner
      • Jul 2008
      • 3536

      #62
      Originally posted by c.d. View Post

      My post to R.D. was tongue in cheek, John. Guess that got lost in the shuffle.

      c.d.
      Hi c.d. I was just posing the question really. Maybe it's for R.D. to answer as its his theoretical scenario.

      Cheers John

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      • Scott Nelson
        Superintendent
        • Feb 2008
        • 2504

        #63
        Originally posted by seanr View Post
        No-one knows for sure if John McCarthy had a second (or even a third home) elsewhere before 1911. His associate John Cooney undoubtedly had a second home in Hastings, but he only stayed there some of the time and when the Cooney family ran the Weaver's Arms in Hanbury Street they could be found there.

        There is plenty of evidence to support John McCarthy's regular presence both in Spitalfields and in Dorset Street itself up until around 1911. There's every reason to believe he was wealthier than generally supposed, and he certainly had extremely wealthy friends.
        Yes, but would he have chosen to live with his wife and daughters at #27 Dorset if he didn't have to? And wouldn't it also have been safer for him and his family if the sporting mob didn't know his actual living address?

        Why would McCarthy have been tasked with collecting rents (via Bowyer) in Miller's Court if he didn't own it? All he would have been interested in, and had time for, was his grocery business. Maybe the other John McCarthy, who did live there, was responsible for collecting rents for the actual owner.

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        • The Rookie Detective
          Superintendent
          • Apr 2019
          • 2210

          #64
          Originally posted by c.d. View Post

          My post to R.D. was tongue in cheek, John. Guess that got lost in the shuffle.

          c.d.
          I know it was tongue and cheek, I was just running with it, haha!

          "Great minds, don't think alike"

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