Jack McCarthy speech on Dorset Street

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  • MrTwibbs
    Detective
    • Aug 2010
    • 178

    #1

    Jack McCarthy speech on Dorset Street

    I have attached a speech made by someone called Jack McCarthy who denounced an article claiming that Dorset Street is the centre of crime etc. The name McCarthy is a fairly common one for the time period but given the location and time period had me wondering whether he was related to John McCarthy?
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  • DJA
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    • May 2015
    • 4700

    #2
    Yep,that's our man.
    He and his son were at Abberline's retirement party.

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    • MrTwibbs
      Detective
      • Aug 2010
      • 178

      #3
      Originally posted by DJA View Post
      Yep,that's our man.
      He and his son were at Abberline's retirement party.
      Thanks DJA. I didn't know this

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      • Scott Nelson
        Superintendent
        • Feb 2008
        • 2401

        #4
        Yes, they were. But Jack McCarthy, Esq. wasn't the Miller's Court landlord -- another McCarthy was. Although McCarthy Esq. supposedly owned three lodging houses on Dorset Street, he didn't own Miller's Court (Abraham Cohen did).

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        • DJA
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          • May 2015
          • 4700

          #5
          John McCarthy - Jack the Ripper Wiki

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          • Scott Nelson
            Superintendent
            • Feb 2008
            • 2401

            #6
            The Wiki entry has mixed up two different McCarthys. Information garnered from Fiona Rule's book should be viewed cautiously.

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            • MrTwibbs
              Detective
              • Aug 2010
              • 178

              #7
              Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
              The Wiki entry has mixed up two different McCarthys. Information garnered from Fiona Rule's book should be viewed cautiously.
              So it's not certain John was kay kendall's grandfather?

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              • DJA
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                • May 2015
                • 4700

                #8
                It is certain.
                Fiona Rule has proved to be an excellent researcher.
                As much as I like Scott Nelson .......

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                • Scott Nelson
                  Superintendent
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 2401

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MrTwibbs View Post

                  So it's not certain John was kay kendall's grandfather?
                  The McCarthy who owned multiple lodging houses probably was and he was also the one who attended Abberline's retirement. I contend that this man wasn't the Miller's Court rent collector.

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                  • Scott Nelson
                    Superintendent
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 2401

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DJA View Post
                    Fiona Rule has proved to be an excellent researcher.
                    As much as I like Scott Nelson .......
                    Not sure where you got that from, Dave. And I've never done anything to induce likeability.

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                    • DJA
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                      • May 2015
                      • 4700

                      #11

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                      • Scott Nelson
                        Superintendent
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 2401

                        #12
                        Transcript from 1901 pamphlet, "The Worst Street in London".

                        Not a word on the murder of Mary Kelly from this John McCarthy.

                        Casebook: Jack the Ripper - The Worst Street in London

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                        • MrBarnett
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                          • Nov 2013
                          • 5672

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
                          Transcript from 1901 pamphlet, "The Worst Street in London".

                          Not a word on the murder of Mary Kelly from this John McCarthy.

                          Casebook: Jack the Ripper - The Worst Street in London
                          Any mention of the murder of Mary Ann Austin?

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                          • MrBarnett
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                            • Nov 2013
                            • 5672

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post

                            Any mention of the murder of Mary Ann Austin?
                            The Austin murder had taken place a few weeks before McCarthy made his speech and the attack had occurred on the 35, Dorset Street premises of McCarthy’s mate Bill Crossingham. Crossingham was in the audience when McCarthy spoke. It was almost certainly what motivated Fred Mackenzie to write his ‘Worst Street’ article.
                            Last edited by MrBarnett; 09-30-2021, 07:18 AM.

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                            • MrBarnett
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                              • Nov 2013
                              • 5672

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post

                              The McCarthy who owned multiple lodging houses probably was and he was also the one who attended Abberline's retirement. I contend that this man wasn't the Miller's Court rent collector.
                              But he was someone who let out rooms with cheap furniture in them, wasn’t he?

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