Full notes on Charles Cross/Lechmere

[Cogidubnus]

#86

Thanks for all that info Lechmere...most helpful...having been a stepfather myself at 33 (twin girls of 14, boy of 12) I know just how bloody hard it can be...but I can't begin to think how daunting it'd be at just 23...

All the best

Dave

[Monty]

I checked a while back but I think a whole batch of metropolitan police records that correspond frustratingly with his period of service, is missing.

I shall still keep an eye out for him though, and if something crops up, will let you know.

Monty

[Lechmere]

Here are a few documents

Charles Allen Lechmere's birth registry

Thomas Cross's marriage registry

Thomas Cross's death registry (a bit blury)

[CitizenX]

Hi Lechmere,

During your research did you come across more information on Charles sister Emily Charlotte Lechmere. She was also "renamed" to Cross in the 1861 census and was 3 years older than Charles.

It would be interesting to see if she also reverted back to her birth name.

Do you think it's possible that Mary Jane Lechmere, the grandchild living with Maria Louisa in Pinchin Street was Emilys child?

[Lechmere]

A couple more - I've got to redo Charles Lechmere's marriage registry as it didn't come out well.

Charles Lechmere's mother Maria's third marriage to Joseph Forsdike.

Joseph Forsdike's death registry.

[Lechmere]

Mary Jane was definately Charles Lechmere's child - she was registered as his anyway.
His sister Emily is difficlut to trace - I have some leads that I am looking into.
I am fairly certain she didn't call herself Cross though.

Thomas Cross's 1861 census entry is not very well compiled. It has his age wrong, his village and county are wrong I think, and his wife's children are listed as Cross when they should be Lechmere. Sloppy work that has caused confusion.

[Cogidubnus]

Know the problem Lechmere...there's an unrelated widow and (if I recall correctly) five kids transcribed as the wife and family of one of my (3 year old!) forebears in one particular census...

All the best

Dave

[CitizenX]

Mary Jane was definately Charles Lechmere's child - she was registered as his anyway.
His sister Emily is difficlut to trace - I have some leads that I am looking into.
I am fairly certain she didn't call herself Cross though.

Thomas Cross's 1861 census entry is not very well compiled. It has his age wrong, his village and county are wrong I think, and his wife's children are listed as Cross when they should be Lechmere. Sloppy work that has caused confusion.

Right as usual on Mary Jane...I have a copy of her marriage certificate in 1899 but still working out how to post images!

[caz]

Caz:

"I expect he told his wife all about it, and said "Don't worry, love, I used my work name - Cross - so nobody should pester you or our little Lechmeres about it"."

You ... EXPECT he did so?

WARNING - CONJECTURE - WARNING - CONJECTURE - WARNING - CONJECTURE - WARNING - CONJECTURE - WARNING

Or is this what "normal" people do? If you´re not sure, just have a guess ...

And now, let´s not spread non thread-related material here any more ...

The best,
Fisherman

Well done, Fish. You picked up on what 'expect' means, and you warned anyone who may have thought I was quoting Cross directly.

Onwards and upwards - or downwards, as the case may be.

Back to topic now - there's a clever boy.

Love,

Caz
X

[caz]

Caz
For all you know I might be a naughty girl.
Conjecture warning!!!

You didn't look much like a girl last time I saw you, Lech.

Love,

Caz
X

[jmenges]

Bumping the work of Chris Scott.

JM

[MrBarnett]

Bumping the work of Chris Scott.

JM

Very timely. Thanks, JM.

MrB

[GUT]

I've just converted and become a Lechmite.

Simply because me and old Charlie are 15th cousins 4 times removed.

[MrBarnett]

GUT,

If you had a mischievous streak (which of course you haven't ;-)) you could tell Fish you weren't happy with his promotion of your ancestor as JTR. Just for a laugh.

He missed the previous opportunity to enter the moral maze. It would be a shame for him to miss out again.

MrB

[GUT]

GUT,

If you had a mischievous streak (which of course you haven't ;-)) you could tell Fish you weren't happy with his promotion of your ancestor as JTR. Just for a laugh.

He missed the previous opportunity to enter the moral maze. It would be a shame for him to miss out again.

MrB

Boy I'm not happy with you suggesting that I have a mischievous streak, but we are actually related a looooooooong way back. But I can go one better Monte's uncle baptised by Great Grandad and his Cousin served at the same church as Great Grandad's cousin, so there now all I need is a connection to Koz.