Chapman’s death.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Is it reasonable to suggest that, in a yard where an horrific murder took place, the blood was unconnected?

[Al Bundy's Eyes]

Hi board, I took off my index finger in a horrific if avoidable accident. The arterial spray was nothing short of Impressive, ruining several pairs of bowling shoes.

[DJA]

The autopsy on Stride's heart is evidence of death by strangling.

Regarding Chapman,was her throat cut after death.

We have various ideas on how long that takes.

[John G]

Having been employed in an abattoir in outer Brisbane for the pre Xmas rush in the mid 1970s,arterial spray is quite a familiar sight.

Where was the arterial spray in Stride and Eddowes cases?

Interesting point. However, the crucial issue is whether the throat was cut after death.

[DJA]

Having been employed in an abattoir in outer Brisbane for the pre Xmas rush in the mid 1970s,arterial spray is quite a familiar sight.

Where was the arterial spray in Stride and Eddowes cases?

[John G]

"On the wooden paling between the yard in question and the next, smears of blood, corresponding to where the head of the deceased lay, were to be seen. These were about 14 inches from the ground, and immediately above the part where the blood from the neck lay." The marks were immediately below the incision, isn't that sufficient enough to agree with a spray? Since it appears she was cut while lying down, so it wasn't from the result of falling against the fence while being cut. The cut happened while she was lying down, ergo, as I said earlier, despite your attempt to revise it, it appears it was spray.

I agree. And onsidering the extent of the neck injury, presumably arterial spray was pretty much inevitable.

The point that I was making is that 14 inches is no great distance for arterial spray.

[Michael W Richards]

In the Wallace murder case blood splatter hit the wall 7 feet in height. That's what happens with arterial spray.

"On the wooden paling between the yard in question and the next, smears of blood, corresponding to where the head of the deceased lay, were to be seen. These were about 14 inches from the ground, and immediately above the part where the blood from the neck lay." The marks were immediately below the incision, isn't that sufficient enough to agree with a spray? Since it appears she was cut while lying down, so it wasn't from the result of falling against the fence while being cut. The cut happened while she was lying down, ergo, as I said earlier, despite your attempt to revise it, it appears it was spray.

[John G]

In the Wallace murder case blood splatter hit the wall 7 feet in height. That's what happens with arterial spray.

[Michael W Richards]

On the wooden paling between the yard in question and the next, smears of blood, corresponding to where the head of the deceased lay, were to be seen. These were about 14 inches from the ground, and immediately above the part where the blood from the neck lay.

Which suggests that they were a result of a pressurized spray of blood, like from an arterial breach.

[DJA]

From Chandler:

”There were also a few spots of blood on the back wall, near the head of the deceased, 2ft from the ground. The largest spot was of the size of a sixpence”

That's three and a half feet from her neck.

[John G]

From Chandler:

”There were also a few spots of blood on the back wall, near the head of the deceased, 2ft from the ground. The largest spot was of the size of a sixpence”

This surely puts to bed any idea of the body being killed/mutilated elsewhere? These would have been behind the door so there’s no way that they could have gotten there any other way that as spray from the body or maybe a drop or two flying from the knife as he wielded it.

Yeah, I think the argument that Chapman was killed elsewhere is a none starter, and not supported by any of the evidence.

[Herlock Sholmes]

From Chandler:

”There were also a few spots of blood on the back wall, near the head of the deceased, 2ft from the ground. The largest spot was of the size of a sixpence”

This surely puts to bed any idea of the body being killed/mutilated elsewhere? These would have been behind the door so there’s no way that they could have gotten there any other way that as spray from the body or maybe a drop or two flying from the knife as he wielded it.

[DJA]

I challenge you to prove that Amelia Richardson didn’t kill Annie Chapman assisted by Fred Abberline both dressed in rabbit costumes!

Holy Grail - Killer Bunny - YouTube

[DJA]

The killer was indeed on the right side of Chapman when he cut her throat, not her left where he could have kicked the fence so codosch could hear him.

Blood smears suggest he/she/it moved around on the fence side after cutting her throat.

[DJA]

We know that blood splatters were on that fence, about 12-18 inches from the bottom of the fence if I recall, That proximity to the fence, and the fact that it was thought to be arterial spray, meant her position in relation to the fence might have easily been the cause of the thud as he lowered her onto her back. I think this killer first choked his victim to unconsciousness, like he did with Polly.

On the wooden paling between the yard in question and the next, smears of blood, corresponding to where the head of the deceased lay, were to be seen. These were about 14 inches from the ground, and immediately above the part where the blood from the neck lay.