Schwartz and Brown

Hello Mike! I'll say! (Perhaps the Easter Bunny is preferable to the mutilatus interruptus theory. Oops, too cavalier?)

Cheers.
LC

....shhh.....maybe no-one will see that.

Cheers Lynn

[lynn cates]

ditto

Hello Mike! I'll say! (Perhaps the Easter Bunny is preferable to the mutilatus interruptus theory. Oops, too cavalier?)

Cheers.
LC

As far as Im concerned old friend, I may not agree with the exact story that youve woven the premise together with as you do....but I sure find it easy to accept a simpler premise than a botched abdominal mutilation.

Simple evidence in terms of the physical wounds dictates that a simple answer may also be applicable I think.

All the best mate.

[Fisherman]

Hi Mike, Lynn!

Your suggestion, Mike, is something you have aired before on these boards. I must say that I do not buy into it. To me, Schwartz testimony has a ring of truth to it. He awards himself the role of the coward (albeit he brushes up on it in the Star interwiew), and such things more often come about when people are being honest.
There is also a newspaper report (though I cannot say when and in which paper, but Iīm sure there are those who may oblige ...?) that speaks of two people running through the streets, exactly the way Schwarts described the chase along with Pipeman.

Taken together, I find little reason not to believe in Schwartz. Moreover, I firmly believe that he is corroborated by Marshall, since much speaks for Marshalls man and BS man being one and the same - if they were not, then Stride met TWO sturdy men of the same length and approximate age, clad in dark trouser and jackets, wearing peaked caps and being of respectable appearance on that evening.

No, I stick with my scenario for the simple reason that it offers a credible explanation to each and every detail involved in the Stride killing.

The best,
Fisherman

[lynn cates]

minor changes

Hello Mike. I assume there may be minor changes, but I like the physical sequence Fish proposes.

I have no qualms about making a club member the suspect, provided he is taking Liz down from behind (and not messing up the cachous) while they are EXITING the yard.

I think that the only real problem revolves around Liz meeting a club member at the door, and then infuriating him within the next 7-9 feet to the point of slitting her throat.

It would help if the club member were named Kaminski or even Kosminski (or even K-something-ski).

The best.
LC

I wonder what changes you might want to make my amigo Fisherman if we discovered at some point that the reason that Schwartz wasnt used at the Inquest....which is what it appears is the case,....was because he was found to be a Club member and had attended the meeting that night, and the episode he described as happening in the street outside the gates was actually inside the yard and out of sight to anyone who had a view of in front of the gates?

What weight would be attached to a story from a member who stands to lose his club if the killer was thought to be a club member based on the fact that the altercation that began the murder occurred in the yard itself...when his initial story did not include those important facts?

Just a what if. Might the investigators hesitate about endorsing the story at an Inquest, but still privately discuss the ramifications of the "Lipski" remark in later memos? They thought Jack was a Jew....we know that....and the man that yells "Lipski" is probably not....or he is Orthodox.

Cheers mate

[lynn cates]

Hello Fish. I agree. I hardly touch that one as the implications transcend my puny mind.

The best.
LC

[Fisherman]

Lynn Cates writes:

"your handling of the Stride business seems the most logical solution that I've seen."

Thank you kindly, Lynn!

"Perhaps later (and in a different thread) you can do the same for Mary Kelly."

Well, being a Swede myself, I have always had a particular feeling for Stride. But I have had a go at Kelly too, in Ripperologist. The trouble with Kelly is that although the killer spent more time with her than with any other victim, I fail to see as many useful clues as is the case with Stride.

I think I need to spend more time in Millerīs Court. To my mind, the Kelly slaying may well carry different implications than the other killings. But that is for another time, and - not least - another thread!

The best, Lynn!
Fisherman

[lynn cates]

MJK too

Hello Fish. Well, your handling of the Stride business seems the most logical solution that I've seen.

Perhaps later (and in a different thread) you can do the same for Mary Kelly.

The best.
LC

[Fisherman]

Thanks for the advice, Lynn, but being of the old school, I have always tried to steer clear of the combination of a want for economical gain and the wish to reach a better understanding of what and who Jack was.

So far, my efforts have been a complete success, I may add ...

The best,
Fisherman

[lynn cates]

making money

Hello Fish. Sleep is good.

Oh, you needn't solve it to make money. Just come up with an outrageous hypothesis that others have not yet suggested.

What about a fruiterer? Say, Packer?

The best.
LC

[Fisherman]

Well, to be perfectly honest, I did take my fifteen year old boy for a walk in the East end when I last vsited London three weeks ago, and somehow we stumbled upon Gunthorpe Street, Durward Street and Mitre Square.

"Have you solved it yet?" is a question my kids often ask, followed up by "Will we be rich when you do?"

Think Iīll sleep on it.

The best, Lynn, and goodnight to you!
Fisherman

[lynn cates]

congrats

Hello Fish. Congratulations! I presume they will be trained in all things Ripper?

You may sleep well, but will mom and dad?

The best.
LC

[Fisherman]

Lynn Cates writes:

"This makes perfect sense!!"

Thatīs what Iīve been saying for the longest time now.

"Thank you!! (Now I can get some sleep.)"

Sleep well, Lynn! I know I shall - I have added two small cousins to my own tally of three kids this weekend...

The best!
Fisherman

[lynn cates]

at last

Hello Fish. Well, at last my questions about Liz and her "kissing" friend have been supplied with some good answers. The above is the missing link. (I read your dissertation but must have missed something.)

I have tried to account for why Liz was IN the yard and also EXITING the yard. This makes perfect sense!!

Thank you!! (Now I can get some sleep.)

The best.
LC