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Originally posted by Fisherman View PostPlease, dear God - I don't deserve this!! None of us do.
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Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View PostThats what I and others keep saying when you keep banging on about Cross being the Ripper, and responsible for the Torsos
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There is sufficient evidence, both physical and circumstantial, to conclude that it is almost certain that in the backyard that night on Hanbury, a killer sought to obtain specifically the uterus.
The fact that 2 murders later that same organ is, at least in part, taken from the scene also might well be the red flag on the killers fetish.
I believe the Nichols case could also be linked in the same fashion, there is evidence that the state of the victim when found indicated that she had been mutilated very recently, he may well have stopped further indignities. The Victimology, Methodology, and Situational elements in the Nichols and Chapman murders are almost identical, and if that killer sought a uterus specifically, there is every reason to wonder whether Pollys murder was abbreviated prematurely.
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Originally posted by Michael W Richards View PostThere is sufficient evidence, both physical and circumstantial, to conclude that it is almost certain that in the backyard that night on Hanbury, a killer sought to obtain specifically the uterus.
The fact that 2 murders later that same organ is, at least in part, taken from the scene also might well be the red flag on the killers fetish.
I believe the Nichols case could also be linked in the same fashion, there is evidence that the state of the victim when found indicated that she had been mutilated very recently, he may well have stopped further indignities. The Victimology, Methodology, and Situational elements in the Nichols and Chapman murders are almost identical, and if that killer sought a uterus specifically, there is every reason to wonder whether Pollys murder was abbreviated prematurely.
But! If this was the "fetisch" of the killer, then why would he carve out Eddowes´ kidney? And Kellys kidneys, liver, heart and spleen? Why would he cut a section of Eddowes´colon and place it neatly stretched out alongside the body? Why would he cut the faces on occasion? Why cut the flesh from a thigh?
How does that relate to his "fetisch" thinking?
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The point I am trying to make is perhaps best illustrated by saying that when three uteri are excised from the Ripper´s victims, we tend to go: "FETISCH!"
... but when three kidneys are excised from these victims, we have nothing to say about it.
Surely, three kidneys cannot make for a fetisch...?
Simple answers were always the more tempting ones.Last edited by Fisherman; 12-15-2018, 02:08 AM.
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