Vote Here II

[Lechmere]

Twice - on the other site as well.
You are far too hypersensitive, I was only mildly pulling your leg.

[Tom_Wescott]

I hope you are not featuring this wound on the cover illustration that you are going on about all the time.

Going on about? You mean the cover that I've mentioned exactly once? And what if I am? I guess I don't have your restraint, what with me littering up dozens of threads across two sites with my theories while you hardly ever mention a peep about your Lechmere business.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[GUT]

I was hoping he would. Cool.......

[Lechmere]

I hope you are not featuring this wound on the cover illustration that you are going on about all the time.

[Tom_Wescott]

Tom
Yes indeed your Tabram comments - but I don't think it's certain that she was stabbed internally.

My book comes out next month. I'll talk more about it after that.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Lechmere]

Tom
Yes indeed your Tabram comments - but I don't think it's certain that she was stabbed internally.

[Tom_Wescott]

Just a quick reminder that Emma Smith never made a statement as to what happened to her. The story comes from her lodging house deputy and a 23 year old doctor who didn't think to contact police or take notes.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Tom_Wescott]

Some comments about possible similarities between the attack on Tabram and that on Smith made me think - whether there was an internal wound on Tabram's groin.

Good deduction, Ed. Was it perhaps my direct statement that an internal wound was in fact inflicted on Tabram?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[GUT]

G'Day Lechmere

I've always figured that if there was a "Gang" then there was at each murder one killer and the other/s watched on or stood lookout. But I think that reality is there was only the one.

[Lechmere]

There is a spatial problem with more than two people doing the damage to one person. If there were four assailants, unless they 'politely' moved out of each others way to give each a bite of the cherry, which is unlikely in the heat of the moment, some would naturally barely get a look in. Some will always be more aggressive and enthusiastic than others.

I am glad no one picked me up for spelling lone as loan.

[MrBarnett]

Hi,

I've just voted for 'a gang of men', by which I mean a criminal gang and not just a bunch of rowdies looking for some post-pub entertainment. I think that's what the police initially had in mind because of the horrific nature of the injuries - a local extortion mob, sending a message to the local prostitutes that they meant business.

The murder of Tabram may have strengthened that belief, but beyond that I think they would have cause to rethink and consider the possibility of a crazed individual ( or individuals ) at which point Smith, by her own testimony, had eliminated herself from being a JTR victim.

MrB

[lynn cates]

Phoenix Park

Hello Caroline. Your speculation is sound.

Actually, something like that happened at Phoenix Park. Of the group of assassins (four who actually accosted the duo) only two wielded knives. But nineteen year old Tim Kelly (note the age) was ineffective and Joe Brady did most of the cutting.

Cheers.
LC

[caz]

I would say any more than two, joining in the action, could be called a gang.

But there are shades of grey as with anything else. Often you get one or two who actually commit the offences, with one or more merely observing - either getting their jollies that way or wanting nothing to do with it.

If Emma Smith was telling the truth about one of the men (three I believe) being a teenager, who knows? The youngster could have stood back horrified at what he was witnessing. Or high on the excitement of it all, was he the one who did all the damage to 'impress' the older ones?

Love,

Caz
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[curious4]

"Gang"

I believe that what she actually said was that she was attacked by two or three men. Would that constitute a gang? How many do you need to call it a gang of men?

Best wishes,
C4

[caz]

Sounds a reasonable possibility to me, Lech.

One wonders what she would have said if the attack had happened later that year, while the ripper murders were making the headlines - or what she would have made of the murders had she survived back in April.

Love,

Caz
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